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Offline tsa yo ga

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hickory stave too narrow?
« on: October 16, 2008, 02:51:28 pm »
hey ya'll
i need some advice.  i have a stave of hickory roughed out and drying.  it is hickory and only a hair over an inch in width and about 60" long.  it was a sapling and it is the best start i've made yet.  is it too narrow?  i am hoping it will become a bow, not just more kinlin.

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 02:53:46 pm »
it would make a perfect eastern woodlands d bow.
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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 02:55:15 pm »
At that narrow width, it'll probably take a fair bit of set. Is the stave dead straight? If you lose anymore width when you cut your profile, it won't help. I usually make my hickory bows (self or backed) at least 1.5" at the fadse, sometimes wider. 1" would be OK with osage. That said, give your stave a go... why not?!

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 02:59:13 pm »
Yep just right for a good D bow.

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 03:01:58 pm »
Tsa Go Ya, that's fine ol boy. Go for it. I have a short version of an eastern woodlans D bow, that's 48" long, only about an inch wide. Pulls 45lbs at 20" and never did take much set. I don't see any problem with your stave-just don't take it any narrower than that, except at the tips.

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 05:37:30 pm »
Well ya can't put the wood back on! Leave it as wide as it is now an hope for the best. Tillered to a D bow and you might get away with little set.

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 06:11:41 pm »
We made a Community Bow a couple years ago that was a replica of a Cayuga eastern Woodlands deflex/reflex design. It was red hickory,  about 60" long, 1 1/16" wide, and pulled in the high 50's at 28" without excessive set. Make it bend through the handle and heat in a little reflex before tillering.




 
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Offline sailordad

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 06:33:00 pm »
thats a nice looking bow there hillbilly ;D
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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 06:36:47 pm »
As Hillbilly said, temper the belly, and you won't have a problem, especially when it's a nice D bow. Hickory's a geat wood so long as you manage to get it dry enough.

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 12:15:15 am »
I think it would work perfectly. I haven't had a whole lot of experience with Hickory, but theoretically the high crown on the back should be great. I've heard that Hickory's back can overpower the belly, causing excessive set. With a high crown bow, this would even out.
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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 05:24:51 am »
I have made a few just like that out of saplings about 60 inches and bend through the handle
that turned out in the low 50's @26 and didn't take a lot of set.I just split it down the middle and had a flat belly and crowed back.It worked fine,like adb I usually ,when I have enough wood
make them 1 1/2 to 1 5/8 but you have to use what you have.Go for it.Just make sure you
keep the hickory dry and tiller slow in several sessions and it should make a fine bow. :)
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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 10:25:09 am »
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thats a nice looking bow there hillbilly


SD, all I did on that one was cut the stave and rough out the profile. Pat bent the curves into it, Marc St. Louis tillered it, Minuteman fine-tuned and sanded it, and Mullet did the finish and decoration. It turned out to be a good shooter, it's a pretty close replica of a Cayuga bow in the Encyclopedia of Native American Bows, Arrows, and Quivers. There's an article about the building of it in the Summer 2006 (vol 14 issue 2) PA.
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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2008, 09:58:06 am »
h.b. you all did a fine job making that one then,simply  ;)
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Offline shamus

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 11:39:37 am »
too narrow, too short.

maybe if you made a D bow with a flat belly, and kept the draw length under 27", you might be okay.

otherwise, I'd make a woman's or a kid's bow out of it.

Offline tsa yo ga

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Re: hickory stave too narrow?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 11:59:13 am »
 Thanks for the input everybody.  The stave will stay 1'' wide and i will go slowly with the tillering.  I have a good feeling about it, it might be my first hunting weight bow.  It has some natural reflex and is fairly straight, one end does bend a bit.  I will attempt to temper the belly, could someone let me know how that works?  It is bending, but not much.  I will post some pics soon if my better half can figure that out.  thanks again for the encouragement.  Jay