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Offline Bent Rig

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2008, 10:30:47 am »
I would recommend that everyone  plugs their  heat box into a GFCI protected outlet - because you were miss informed by Orcbow - because the way a GFCI works is off the neutral wire , any leakage of current trips it and the neutral not the groundwire is the current carrying conductor - so if there is any fault whatsoever in the wiring and or breakdown of any components -the GFCI will pickit up and shut the power off -great insurance . A GFCI only monitors between the hot and the nuetral , so anythig thats plugged into it doesn't neccessarily need a ground for it to work . Something I do for a living ,Lol !!!

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Offline Pat B

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2008, 11:12:29 am »
Thanks, Paul. I appreciate you clearing this up for us. Obviously you have the knowledge and experience.      Pat
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Offline Bent Rig

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2008, 02:22:02 pm »
Sure thing Pat , I would hate for anyone to have a fire or get shocked and that would be the best way , also in conjuction like someone said - a thermostat to keep a desired temperature . Safety first !! ;)
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Offline Jesse

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2008, 05:54:10 pm »
Thanks again for clearing that up. I thought the gfci was a good idea but didnt know how it worked.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2008, 07:30:56 pm »
Sorry, everyone, for getting that mixed up :-[  but why is it called a Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter? I understand that it is an important safety device. But does a GFCI need to be connected to a ground wire, also, to work properly?


Offline Dano

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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2008, 07:57:41 pm »
The GFCI does, but not appliance, here's a link that explains it.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/gfi.html
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orcbow

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2008, 08:42:26 pm »
Thanks Dano, for that link. I will connect my hot box to a GFCI. Thank you Bent Rig, for helping a guy learn a little more!

Offline burn em up chuck

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2008, 10:34:16 pm »
that looks great, i've been reviewing lots of hot box designs. haven't decided yet though.

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Offline Bent Rig

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2008, 07:03:51 pm »
Dano and everyone else - a GFCI will still operate the same with or without a ground connected to it , for example according to tne NEC - if someone had 2 prong outlets without a ground and wanted to replace them to a 3 prong grounded receptacle , the only legal way to do so is to replace it with a GFCI recepatacle . It will still operate the same but more expensive because each recepactacle has to be replaced individually @ 8 bucks a pop .

Paul  8)

p.s.- NEC = National Electric Code
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Offline Bent Rig

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2008, 07:09:17 pm »
Orcbow as far as any leakage in current naturally finds the least resistance to ground - which is a ground fault - so suffice to say that's the appropriate terminology for the device .
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Offline Justin Snyder

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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2008, 07:30:34 pm »
I ran my wiring outside the hotbox to protect it from the extra heat.  It only drops into the hot box at the light fixture. I used metal pancake boxes to attach the lights and hooked the ground from the wall up to the pancake box for good measure.  Justin
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Offline Dano

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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2008, 08:49:24 pm »
Good info Bent Rig, thanks
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