Osage bow layout help (more pics)

[Fox]

I figured I should just start a new thread rather then ask  this on my last one.... I'm having trouble laying out this bow because of knots on the edge of the stave and one side of the stave being really wide and the other side just 1 3/4" wide. I'm aiming for 50-55#  at 27"... the stave is 65" long and one end is 1 3/4" wide and the other end is 2 1/2" wide.. thanks

-Fox


20200729_130249 by Livvydog, on Flickr

[Pat B]

1 1/4" to 1 1/2" is plenty wide for a 65", 50#-55#@27" osage bow. You could go with a pyramid style, straight taper from the fades to the tips or go out 6" to 8" before tapering to the tips. Try to work it out so you eliminate the pins and knots and if you can't, leave as much wood around them to make them more safe.

[Fox]

Okay thanks pat! ill post a pic when i have it all laid out... think im going to go out 6" then taper to .5"

[Selfbowman]

What Pat said.

[Fox]

More pics with it laid out. the last 2 pics are of each limb and the rest are of knots that that worry me a bit. I really am not a fan of the big knot at the very tip of the bow but, i dont know how to work around it...will it be alright do ya think? it seems so thin also but i only work whitewood so i guess this is a normal width for osage? i would like to give it a bit of a recurve nothing sharp just a little bit of a flipped tip that should be fine right? Thanks again everyone.

-Fox

105837 by Livvydog, on Flickr


105835 by Livvydog, on Flickr


105831 by Livvydog, on Flickr



105829 by Livvydog, on Flickr


105827 by Livvydog, on Flickr

[Pat B]

In your first pic I would try to incorporate the knot within the limb instead of going around it. Trying to go around the knot looks like it could cause trouble in the end. Also, with the knot near the tip you should be able to reduce the width somewhat around the know because that is a non working area of the limb.

[Fox]

Okay thanks I'll go do that

[Fox]

Oh and the knot in the first pic is in the fade.

[gutpile]

even more reason to leave the knot... agree with Pat here.. gut

[Fox]

Okay thanks guys will do .

[TimBo]

Don't ask how I know this, but sometimes you can get in more trouble avoiding a knot than if you had just used it.

[Fox]

Alrighty heres it now..  darn pencil smearing all over makin it hard to see 

105855 by Livvydog, on Flickr

105857 by Livvydog, on Flickr

[Pat B]

Spread the swell on the right side of that last pic so it flows better around the knot. Look closely and follow the grain, like a creek flowing around a stone.

[Fox]

Okay thanks again pat, your a wondeful teacher aswell. I really appreciate all your help.

[Pat B]

In a couple of pics the pencil line comes very close to the edge. There's no problem there unless that edge is undercut towards the belly. Maybe try to get your sides square to the back before drawing your outline. I say this from experience.