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Offline RyanY

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A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« on: March 28, 2020, 02:40:08 pm »
I've been more engaged in some bow making facebook groups lately and have seen a ton of questions about backing board bows. It seems there's a myth that board bows need to be backed for some kind of protection. Selecting boards with good grain, good design, and good tiller are all that's needed for a bow. To demonstrate this, I decided to blow up a bow that I had messed up during the finishing process. The back of the bow is crowned to add to the demonstration. I think it ended up being pulled to around 40" before exploding and even then it wasn't a quick process. I think I had too much fun doing this but it made for an effective demonstration.  ;D I was personally surprised it pulled as far as it did.

Video of the explosion (not monetized): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3941cMoi1o&feature=youtu.be

Offline RyanY

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 02:41:57 pm »
Pictures of the break and the set in the surviving limb.

Offline Pat B

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 02:52:56 pm »
Thanks for the fun, Ryan.  (--)  Seeing a bow break like that can teach you a lot about the wood used. Fun to study those breaks to see just where and for what reason they break.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 04:01:34 pm »
You should have kept it :D.
I have the same scale. Right at the 1:00 min mark you go up and reset the scale. I'm wondering why. I'm thinking there may be a feature I don't understand.

Offline paulsemp

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 07:53:04 pm »
Funny the ones you want to break can go out to 40 in and the ones you don't want to break blow up at 26

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 09:18:17 pm »
You should have kept it :D.
I have the same scale. Right at the 1:00 min mark you go up and reset the scale. I'm wondering why. I'm thinking there may be a feature I don't understand.

When the weight is steady it holds that number till I tare it again.

Funny the ones you want to break can go out to 40 in and the ones you don't want to break blow up at 26

Ain’t that the truth!  (lol)

Offline WhistlingBadger

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2020, 09:21:42 pm »
That was fun to watch, Ryan.  It's always fun breaking stuff on purpose.   ;D  Thanks for sharing.  T
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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2020, 01:32:01 am »
As DC said, you should have kept it - it was a nice one.
Have you measured the humidity - that break looks like very dry
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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2020, 02:58:00 am »
White oak bow, straight from the board, 50#@28", exploded at 41 inch draw.

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdTK26j3WdM

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2020, 05:06:32 am »
It's good to experiment.
PS...To add here I did a fair amount of experimenting with red cedar....Ha Ha.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2020, 08:14:59 am by BowEd »
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Offline RyanY

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2020, 05:22:41 am »
As DC said, you should have kept it - it was a nice one.
Have you measured the humidity - that break looks like very dry

Thanks Simson. I really made a mess of the finish on that one and it just wasn’t worth it to me to put more work into it. I think it was around 8-9% having measured another bow from the same board a few months ago.

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2020, 05:57:21 am »
Great vid :o ... had me wincing :)
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Offline silent sniper

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 11:52:57 am »
Very cool, I definitely enjoyed it 👍🏻

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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2020, 12:24:19 pm »
I think I will keep my old "hard hat"!  And get a new face shield before I try that!  Interesting experiment!
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Offline Hamish

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Re: A Red Oak Board Bow Explosion!
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2020, 06:42:55 pm »
Cool video. How far do you think it pulled before it blew?

In hindsight it would have been interesting to see how the bow degraded incrementally by unstringing and measuring the set before increasing the draw. Oh well I suppose you can try that on your next one.