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Offline simk

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Deflexing a Stave
« on: May 04, 2018, 01:05:07 am »
Another try...
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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2018, 01:06:20 am »
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Offline DC

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2018, 08:52:15 am »
Neat idea. The square ends of the insert kinda bother me but it's all in compression I suppose. I wonder if a hand shocky bow would crack one of those butt joints. Just speculating though. Good job. :)

Offline PatM

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2018, 09:03:58 am »
  Better to do a  rounded scoop out of the area and then fill it with a crescent.

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2018, 09:09:25 am »
Wouldn't that have a tendency to pop out, like a pip squeezed between your fingers. I realise it's unlikely and probably wouldn't happen, just thinking out loud.

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2018, 09:12:18 am »
  Not with proper gluing technique and the right glue.

Offline bushboy

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2018, 09:21:04 am »
Very cool idea!love it when people try new things!I have been thinking about something similar.cutting a small v in the handle,use some heat to almost close the gap ,add glue and mechanically make the bond.maybe a thin veener over the joint would add some sercurity.just my thoughts?my crappy drawing!lol!
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Offline DC

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2018, 09:23:36 am »
I think I may try something like what Pat mentioned. I've got an Ocean Spray stave with too much reflex. I think a "V" would cause too much localised pressure/stretching. All the stretch would be concentrated right opposite the point of the "V". I'm thinking much like Simk but with rounded corners. I guess a cross between Pat's and Simk's. Something that would give a little length to the bending section.
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Offline Bayou Ben

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2018, 09:29:58 am »
I was thinking the same as PatM, but that's a cool idea and I'm sure it will still work that way. 

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2018, 10:05:00 am »
That wont budge, it cant. Nice work.
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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2018, 12:04:27 pm »
That wont budge, it cant. Nice work.
Agreed, and I like the idea a lot. I wanna try something like that for reflexing.
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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2018, 12:56:55 pm »
Here's my try so far. I used a hole saw and then joined the holes. I might have gotten a little close to the back but it sure bent easily. I'll be testing this on my shooting machine a bunch before I shoot it. Now to try and fit a piece in the hole ??? ???

Offline simk

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2018, 02:18:37 pm »
DC, The hole saw! That's it! I was already thinking about how to do as PatM suggested, didn't know how to cut a nice circle. Thanks.
With the next one I will use a slightly bigger radius but  only cut one piece out, so that I can reglue the original piece. Why did you do 2 cuts? Anyway I wouldn't worry about a failure with your bow - you can hang a car on this piece of wood. My first was much worse so that I definitly had to fix it with fiberglass. Yours must be still ok.
bushboy: I did this, but its enormous stress for the wood if you do just a v - it's not bending nice unless you go too deep, at least for memyselfandI The challenge is, to get it done so nice, that you don't need a handle wrap. Mine also looks a bit odd because I also dry heated for the bend, which wasn't a good idea and gave stronger outlines.
Now I got an ugly tillering-job to do on this  :BB
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Offline DC

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2018, 02:28:51 pm »
If you use a single hole you will still be concentrating the stresses like the "V", not as much but still. With two holes you can see that I have the distance between red arrows to bend. I tend to over think things. I am having an awful time cutting the  patch though. I would suggest using a wood of contrasting colour to help hide the glue line. I'm using the same wood so my glue line will look kinda bad I think unless things pick up before I glue.

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Re: Deflexing a Stave
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2018, 02:52:49 pm »
with my magic wood one bigger hole will be good for that little bending  ;D - much better than that ridiculous v  8)
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