George....... You were the one that first helped me... Prolly woulda been around 2001....I had a different handle then... it wouldn't let me log in, so I made a new one... You sent me a black locust stave to learn on... I am forever grateful to you !!! You were patient, and would always messege me back with your great advice.... I would have given up, if it wasn't for your encouragement !!! I ended up breaking that bow, but had enough left to make my son a bow... so, that was perfect.... I learned a lot from that one, and went on to make several osage and hickory bows... gave some to my friends, and kept a couple.... Killed a deer with a selfbow my first year trying... I have went full circle, I think... compound, gun....and back... Thank you, from the bottom of my heart !!! MUCH respect !!!! Mike