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Offline Marin

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2017, 12:02:11 am »
Okay I did some more work on the back.
I'm practicing ring chasing on the sapwood ring. Once I've chased a ring in the sapwood, I'm going to take all the sapwood off and chase a heartwood ring.
I've attached a picture of the basic process I'm doing. I'm taking off the layer under the bark with a rasp, getting down to the the late wood ring, with small islands of early wood left over, and then I'm using a scraper to take off these islands of late wood.
So far I'm doing pretty good. I've only done half the back and I covered that half with some titebond II glue as a sealant. The osage didn't check without it but I am just following your guys advice. The sapwood rings are much thiner then the heartwood rings so I think not violating a sapwood ring means I'm doing pretty good. There are some I knots in the wood so I'm being careful at these areas, making sure that the the ring doesn't violate the ring.
I've attached pics. The top one showing the tip of of the stave is what I have a question about. There are these dark streaks on it and I'm trying to figure out what they are. I thought they were late wood but they aren't coming off. Maybe I shouldn't be worrying about it but I just want yours guys opinion

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2017, 09:00:32 pm »
Bubby,
I don't know of your reading this thread but if you are, can you please clear out your pm a little? I tried sending you a message the other day and it says it's full
Thanks

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2017, 10:21:37 pm »
Bubby,
Have you read this yet?

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2017, 12:17:29 am »
I cleaned out my in box
failure is an option, everyone fails, it's how you handle it that matters.
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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2017, 01:46:05 am »
Thanks
Btw guys, do I put glue on the back after I chase the final growth ring I intend to be my back?

Offline Marin

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2017, 06:54:28 pm »
Okay I'm dome with chasing the practice sapwood ring. As you can see, I've fully caused a very thin sapwood ring on the back if the stave and, with the exception of a small area in the middle, I did not violate it. In the second picture, the discoloration on the piece of the stave in the foreground is only due to the fact I applied TB II on that area last week.
The ring was very thin and I used a rasp for most of it, applying less pressure when trying to take off the early wood. I'm going to now take off the sapwood and then go down to the fourth heartwood ring. I thought the first ring would be thick enough but when I sanded the end and wet it down, I saw that I did not see that the first ring was merely two thin rings.
Do you think that I should go ahead with trying to chase the heartwood ring? Or should I do something else before?

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2017, 07:11:48 pm »
Looks like you got plenty of wood to work with. I enjoy chasing rings so if it were me and I needed practice, I'd keep chasing, one ring at a time until I got to that nice thick one that's 2 or 3 deeper. Just my thoughts though.  :)
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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2017, 07:28:55 pm »
+1  Chasing the heart wood ring is easer ,Upstates right you have a lot of thickness to work with so if you dont like that ring when you get there you have options, good therapy chasing rings !
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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2017, 10:34:12 pm »
Okay I'll take off all the sapwood and chase the 3 heartwood rings before getting to the fourth. Does that sound about right?

Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2017, 10:41:52 pm »
yeah,, I like thick on too,, (-P

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2017, 01:29:11 pm »
When I finally chase my final heartwood ring, do I still put TB II to seal it?

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2017, 01:53:14 pm »
Yes but if you could get some shelac it would be easer to get off or the hair spray trick although I have never tried it but TB2 is a pain to get off !
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Offline Marin

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2017, 10:47:38 pm »
No pics today but I was able to get the sapwood off with a rasp but I found it took longer than I thought so I'm caving I and buying a draw knife  ;)
Anyways, I was looking online and I found this brand 
http://m.northerntool.com/products/shop~tools~product_200623953_200623953?hotline=false&cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Logging%20%26gt%3B%20Logging%20Tools%20%26gt%3B%20Draw%20Shave%20%2B%20Debarking&utm_campaign=Ironton&utm_content=41645&gclid=CKHK_IyaqNQCFQaRfgodvD8Obg
Might this be a good one? I have seen several less expensive vintage draw knives on eBay that appear to be in good condition but I for know how to judge of there good enough. How would you guys judge?


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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2017, 12:10:38 am »
I was in rush when I posted the last post and I realized I forgot to edt out typos. I meant to say I don't know how to judge if the vintage draw knives are any good and was wondering if you guys had any tips or (for newer draw knives) recommendations as to which brand I should use?

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Re: Osage Bow (that hopefully doesn't take 10 months)
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2017, 12:28:35 am »
Any drawknife is better than none. Buy what you can afford and go from there. Cheers- brendan