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Offline Aussie Yeoman

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What tree species have I found?
« on: January 28, 2017, 03:56:30 pm »
I found a couple of copses of these trees, and noticed the trunks were a nice size and shape for bows. However, I have no idea what species it is.

Any helpers?



Oh, and how about this second one? Could be Poplar of some sort?



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Offline Pat B

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 04:00:51 pm »
The first looks like a poplar or aspen. The second, maybe Chinese Tallow. Does it have a distinctive smell when the leaves are crushed. Do you live in a tropical or semi tropical area?
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Offline Aussie Yeoman

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 04:29:04 pm »
Not at all tropical here: a little hotter in summer and much cooler in winter than California, with similar low humidity.

None of the leaves had a distinctive smell that I could discern. And the second one smelled like nothing at all when I cut it with a chainsaw.

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 04:42:49 pm »
Do you t least have an idea if introduced trees are likely?

Offline Aussie Yeoman

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 04:46:53 pm »
Yep, absolutely. Both these trees are definitely introduced. Canberra is a tossed salad of introduced tree species. Which can make it hard to narrow the candidates down.

However, I read up a bit about Chinese Tallow and I don't think that's what I found, as the copse is fairly limited and does not appear to be aggressively spreading as Chinese Tallow is wont to do.
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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 06:08:29 pm »
I would be inclined to think that both are Aspens or Poplars, the first one for sure.  Low density trees not really suitable for bows
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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 08:02:56 pm »
I agree with the earlier assessment. Looks like a poplar species to me

Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 08:06:26 pm »
are the leaves in the second one from the tree behind it to the right? I don't know of any poplar that has bark like that.
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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 11:30:54 pm »
First does look like Bigtooth Aspen.

Offline justsomedude

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2017, 12:05:43 am »
I had a birch tree with leaves like that too.

Offline cadet

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2017, 04:42:35 am »
Wife (heritage horticulture specialist based in Melbourne) suggests first is some sort of poplar, second some sort of cottonwood.


Offline Springbuck

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2017, 07:36:37 am »
  I agree with Cadet's wife.   First I say is bigtooth aspen, and the second is probably an eastern cottonwood.

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2017, 08:49:59 am »
Wife (heritage horticulture specialist based in Melbourne) suggests first is some sort of poplar, second some sort of cottonwood.

Really that would make them both a type of poplar.  ;)

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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2017, 07:15:43 pm »
The leaf petiole is usually flat (rather than round) on trees belonging to the genus Populus.  You can feel it easily if you roll the petiole between finger and thumb.  Both look like Populus sp. to me.
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Re: What tree species have I found?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2017, 08:59:12 pm »
Do they produce tiny seeds surrounded by fluffy "cotton" that make it look like it's snowing in the summer? If so, then it's cottonwood poplar, which would be my guess based on the pictures. We have tons of them here. The "cotton" gets so thick it blocks out the green of the grass. It can be quite a fire hazard as the stuff burns like flash paper.  I don't think it's much of a bow wood though. It make a fine dugout canoe if you get one thats 5 or 6 feet in diameter. 
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