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Offline hawkbow

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IRON WOOD
« on: February 23, 2008, 11:37:58 pm »
Hello to all of you bowyers.. I was wondering if anyone has ever used iron wood for building a board bow... I recently came across some iron wood about ten foot long by inchand a half tick by four inches wide ..looks like some dense wood and very heavy... I am hunter not a bowyer ... so please don't raz me too much  ;D...if this wood is not usable for a bow....any help would be very much appreciated....my one and only self bow got broken a while back so have been shooting a custom built osage laminate stick bow ... thanks in advance for your insight regarding this wood ... Mike A/ho
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 11:41:23 pm »
I believe its hop horn beam and yes it will make an excellent bow! Ten feet! Many bows!
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 11:42:13 pm »
Hawkbow I have never personally built a bow out of Ironwood but I do have a video by I belive its Murray Gaskin , that shows a Ironwood bow
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 11:47:16 pm »
Are there any tricks of the trade when it comes to working this hardwood....I am afraid of ruining the wood before i ever get started.. i have built two ash self bows but that is the extent of my bowyer skills....Mike a/ho
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 11:52:16 pm »
Im wanting to say that it works like hickory but trying to recall video,please wait for more advice from someone that has actually worked it at least with ten foot you have a practice piece
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2008, 12:10:01 am »
Mike ...is this real Ironwood..or Hop Hornbeam?? If it's Desert Ironwood...I am not too sure how it will work for a Bow...looks great as Knife Scales...or Pistol Grips..I have made a Bunch of them.......but if it's Hop Hornbeam....it is good Bow wood...and can be worked like most other Whitwoods....peel the Bark off...and theres your Bows Back....and if you go to Jawges site..he has all of the Information that you can imagine to help you out......    http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/archer.html

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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2008, 01:10:17 am »
Yankee,I am not sure what the wood actually is. one of the log homes we are working on built the deck out of the wood..and they called it Iron wood...the wood is dark like walnut..and very heave and dense.... Mike A/ho
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2008, 01:26:21 am »
Quote from: hawkbow on February 24, 2008, 01:10:17 am
Yankee,I am not sure what the wood actually is. one of the log homes we are working on built the deck out of the wood..and they called it Iron wood...the wood is dark like walnut..and very heave and dense.... Mike A/ho

Does it look like any of these???

http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ironwood,%20desert.htm
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2008, 01:37:54 am »
The pic under web pics ... plank closeups .. looks like the second picture...Mike
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2008, 02:28:19 am »
Some places sell Ipe as Ironwood, just as a heads-up.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 02:40:20 am »
Hi,  If a deck was being made out of this stuff, it seems very unlikely to be desert Ironwood!  Desert Ironwood is beautiful, but I thought it only comes in awfully small pieces.  Given the current popularity, ( and relatively low cost) of tropical hardwoods for decks, my own guess would be some South American import.  Ipe comes to mind and looks something like the second set of pics. In addition, one of the big importers of Ipe does business as "Ironwoods" Anyway, anything that dense will probably make a bow if the grain is straight.   Hawkbow, you might want to look up some of the threads on baking bows out of Ipe, or get a copy of the back issue of Primitive Archer with the article on making bows of Ipe.
Ron

PS Looks like somebody else is thinking along the same lines.
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2008, 03:00:37 am »
Mike....Ron is right on one thing for sure...I didn't read close enough.....you would never get Desert Ironwood long enough to build a Deck out of it..... It grows very gnarly and short...so I bet it is Ipe or some other South American Rainforest Hardwood......Ipe makes a good Bow....I have never made one without a Backing ...though it has been done....do a search on this Board....you will find quite a Bit on it

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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 03:01:51 am »
Mike, I'd bet it is Ipe. "iron wood" is a common name and depending on where you are in the world, it could be 1 of 1000(or more) different woods, just because it is hard. Ipe is used around the country as an outside decking and I have heard it called iron wood. To me, it has a spicy smell to it when scraped, and very oily wood.
   If it is Ipe, it makes great bows. I have made hickory backed bows with it and know of others that have made self bows with Ipe. Grain configuration(if you can see it) is critical for self bows but with the boards being 1 1/2" thick, you might be able to chase a ring to get a continuous ring from tip to tip. If so, you won't need another  backing.
   What is your draw length and weight preference. This can help to determine what design and length to go with.      Pat
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 08:34:44 am »
Mike a picture would help ;)
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Re: IRON WOOD
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2008, 09:29:41 am »
I guess it depends where you come from but, hophornbeam is also called ironwood.
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