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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: paranoid question
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2015, 01:32:53 pm »
Asking questions makes you better. I need to more often. You do good work Jeff.
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2015, 02:14:29 am »
This is 17 inches with a very low brace (1 inch or so)  I think I know where the problem areas are.  What do the experts say?  The deflex messes with me and makes me uncertain.  There has not been any set so far.

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2015, 06:20:13 am »
Looking good so far. Maybe a little flat on the right limb a few inches out fro the fade, left limb looks good to me. :)
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2015, 11:07:58 am »
Wait, What?  You mean I am getting better at this?

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2015, 11:13:12 am »
In order to give you a quantitative answer rather than qualitative these results must be repeated over time.
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2015, 01:33:59 am »
I am at 20 inches--about 9 to go.  Where should I be trying to get more bend from here that will keep set to a minimum?

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2015, 04:49:48 am »
Maybe just a touch just out of the right fad area but over all I would just keep doing what you are doing, looking really nice. :) you are at full brace now aren't you ?
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2015, 10:57:30 am »
No, that was at about 3 inches of brace.  Here is mostly full brace-I may go another inch in the end. 22" now.  Pappy, I do appreciate your willingness to comment. I feel like I am getting the hang of it, but I am still learning.  If you look on the bottom picture though, you can see my tillering gizmo--which is the main reason I can get as close as I can.  It seems like the the deflexed handle and the pyramid-ish tapered limbs are producing a more rounded tiller, instead of elliptical.
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2015, 03:57:23 pm »
Looking good , I would get it to full brace and be careful with the gizmo. It is a great tool but will fool you very easy on a deflex handle and especially on one wit lot of reflex in the limb. They sometimes change also when you get to full brace. Pappy
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2015, 11:30:04 pm »
What should I be looking for around the handle?  I have it to full brace now, and it has taken about an inch of set.

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2015, 01:15:38 am »
If you just braced it and already took an inch of set you braced it too soon. The tension its under just being braced is causing the wood to overstress. Reduce the weight more before you really start working the bow back too far. How many pounds at how many inches are you trying for?
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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2015, 02:50:42 am »
55 lbs at 29 inches.  I have that weight out to about 24 inches now, so about 5 to go.  I only advanced it about 3 inches today with the whole day off from work.  I try to go slow  I can live with a little set, given how short the bow is in relation to how much draw I want.--as long as it is even and holds together long term.

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2015, 04:14:12 am »
That sounds good, set happens and that short 1 inch sound very good to me. Save the fads for the last few inches, if it takes set there is shows up a lot worse than anywhere else. Just keep thing even and move on. Never pulling more weight than you want to end up with. :)
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Re: paranoid question--tillering last check
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2015, 08:45:32 pm »
I have one more inch to go.  This is the last chance to fix problems with the tiller. See anything I should fix now?  Set is at close to an inch and a half--mostly mid-limb out.

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Re: paranoid question--tillering
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2015, 09:15:15 pm »
Flat spot from the square of blue tape out the limb for several inches.