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Offline NOMADIC PIRATE

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Belly Tempering ?
« on: October 24, 2015, 05:46:50 pm »
Again, sorry but I forgot  ;)

Is Red Oak a good candidate for belly tempering ?

How about Vine Maple ?

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Offline PatM

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 05:53:35 pm »
It's not a good candidate but I seem to remember you doing it successfully anyway.
 

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 07:13:22 pm »
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 11:14:11 am »
Vine maple is a great candidate for belly tempering. It is so strong in tension, it cant hurt to beef up the compression.

I don't have any experience with red oak.
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 07:53:26 pm »
It's not a good candidate but I seem to remember you doing it successfully anyway.

I don't remember making a tempered red oak,I know I made a bamboo backed red oak,...but who knows  ;D ;D ;D

Ok than, I'll temper the Vine maple as I try to deflex the limbs and leave the Red Oak alone  ;D
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 08:31:27 pm »
I dont think it would hurt to try it :)

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Offline Gordon

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 08:42:11 pm »
Vine maple is a good candidate for belly tempering unless it already has a lot of reflex - then I do not recommend it.
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2015, 08:47:59 pm »
Pics are mostly gone but..
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,6246.0.html


Forgot about belly tempering that bow, was this the one ?

http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/library/Tiger%20Oak?sort=3&page=1


 picked it up a couple years ago and lifted a splinter as I was shooting it  :( :(

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2015, 08:49:19 pm »
I dont think it would hurt to try it :)


I'm gonna Rawhide back the Red Oak, so I might temper it,...I don't know, but  :-\ :-\
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2015, 08:50:53 pm »
Vine maple is a good candidate for belly tempering unless it already has a lot of reflex - then I do not recommend it.


Gordon, I need to deflex that Vine Maple significantly before I even attempt tillering  ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 09:42:53 pm »
Pics are mostly gone but..
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,6246.0.html


Forgot about belly tempering that bow, was this the one ?

http://s34.photobucket.com/user/NorthShoreLB/library/Tiger%20Oak?sort=3&page=1


 picked it up a couple years ago and lifted a splinter as I was shooting it  :( :(

 That's it. I remember it having a fancy fabric backing.

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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2015, 01:13:33 am »
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Gordon, I need to deflex that Vine Maple significantly before I even attempt tillering

Manny, check out my vine maple build-a-long. I show some techniques for dealing with highly reflexed vine maple.
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2015, 03:01:47 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D Yeah Gordon, I checked that Thread, several times  ;D ;D

I'm afraid tho that my Bowyering skills aren't anywhere near as sharp as Yours,
and I need all the help I can get,
If I cannot deflex the stave with heat than I'll have to do the crazy tillering  ;D
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Re: Belly Tempering ?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2015, 04:49:37 pm »
I used to intentionally reflex wood with dry heat by as much as 10" and more.  Tillering was interesting but far from impossible
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