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AncientTech

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Re: finding agatized coral.
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2015, 02:10:54 pm »
I know of some(super duper rare for my area) in Wa. Whole mountain top is covered but it's a no collecting private property see and leave spot. I'd like to knap some someday. Any of you beach guys got an answer? I'd make the trip.

You can get tons of it, in a remote part of Belize.  The airfare to Cancun might be cheaper than airfare inside the US.  Then, take a bus to the border, four hours away, and rent a car.  From the border, drive another hour and a half to the CBZ.  You could pack about one hundred pounds in two suitcases, and fly back, after returning to Cancun. 

I have done it myself, several times.

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Re: finding agatized coral.
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2015, 02:33:09 pm »
I put the agatized coral for donation, in the classified section:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,53826.0.html

Also, I pulled up a vender on Ebay who is selling the same stuff for $30 dollars a pound, for knapping.  So, maybe my coral for donation is a good deal after all.

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Re: finding agatized coral.
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2015, 10:14:38 pm »
Here are some photos from my second project, with the museum.  We are working with researchers in Europe, with the hope of finding Native American dog DNA.  This is a second project apart from the early man sites project.

I just made a trip to Santa Maria Poniente, Quintana Roo, and took genetic samples from Mayan indian dogs.  We are looking at one particular dog, known as "bosh nee", or "bosh neek".  That is Mayan for "black nose".  There seems to be a strain of Mayan dogs that have upright ears, an upright tail, and a black muzzle.  The build is medium, and slender.  Unfortunately, we could not find a good example.  And, I need about twenty or thirty examples. 

Heading two hours into the Yucatan Peninsula:



So, here are my Mayan friends hard at work.  I speak to them in Spanish.  And, they speak to the villagers in Mayan.  Since everyone is interested in their history, people are already asking when they will be able to get the genetic results, of their dogs. 

   





My good friends, Angel and his brother:





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Possible "Box Neek"










Town square:







Buying mosquito netting, for hammock sleeping - $10 dollars US:



Here are some dog images from prehistoric Mayan Vessels:





















































































From these DNA tests we hope to identify previously unrecognized lineages of dogs.  If anyone wants to make a donation to the Dos Ojos museum, in exchange for Central American agatized coral, I will look for the link. 







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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2015, 09:56:38 pm »
Here is my friend Jeronimo Aviles photographing an early man site, in the Yucatan.  The cave system was open air, during the Ice Age.  When the ocean water levels rose, the karst cave systems became filled with water.



My friend Jeronimo told me that so far no lithics have been found, with the Ice Age skeletons.  But, in spite of the lack of lithics, it is believed that the people came in from the central Yucatan, during the Ice Age.  This belief is based on the strontium levels found in the bones. 

From this idea, I asked myself why people would have wandered out here, during the Ice Age.  Between Muyil, and Holbox island, there is a fault line, with a long string of freshwater cenotes, that actually created lagoons, in the past.  I told me friend Jeronimo that migrating animals probably came out to the area, to drink from the freshwater lagoons, since the sea water is undrinkable.  Since these lagoons are set about five to ten miles back from the coastline, it would stand to reason that the First Americans hunted the migrating animals, when they went to drink in the lagoons.  Jeronimo listened to my theory, and then pointed out that most of the Ice Age skeletons that have been found so far, have been connected to these fresh water lagoon areas.  But, what is interesting is that they are set so far back in the jungle that maybe most of the cenote systems around the lagoons, have never been explored.  During the Ice Age, those cenote systems would have been dry caves.

So, it is my theory that if those cenote systems are explored, around the freshwater lagunas, then there should be signs of early man found submerged in what were once dry caves.  The First Americans would have hunted the beasts as they drank from the fresh water.  And, they would have holed up in the dry caves, to cook and such.

There are a few signs of the First Americans creating massive smoker chambers, deep underground, in which they must have cooked large amounts of meat.  Today, what is found is submerged chambers that have small dead ends, filled with charcoal.  These heavily concentrated cooking spots appear to be the equivalent of prehistoric pit cooking, only backed into the dead end of a cave, deep underground.

Here are some photos from our last exploration.  The first photo shows the site that we attempted to reach.  The site is marked with a yellow placemark tack:



This is where we set off from, in the morning.  This spot is about a four hour hike, southeast of the cenote site:



This is what the brush that we trudged through looks like.  Thank goodness for GPS, and cell phone batteries that stay charged:



Around noon, I was beginning to feel desperate, because it seemed that no cenote was in sight.  Suddenly, one of the taller divers said, "There it is!" 















This cenote lagoon appears to be sitting on the fault line, and is probably a freshwater fed system.  My guess is that Pleistocene creatures would have drank from this type of lagoon, and others like it.  During the Ice Age, the caverns were not filled with water.  So, my second guess is that these areas around the lagoons probably contain the remains of early humans.  For this reason, I am working with cave divers to find these systems, and have them explored.

Here is the Facebook link to the museum:    https://www.facebook.com/MuseodelaPrehistoriaDosOjos

If anyone wants to support early man research, I will send agatize coral, so long as the supporter pays for the shipping.  The people who run the museum have a very positive outlook regarding their research.  Also, Mexican people tend to be very interested in their cultural background.  The researchers in the museum have already had their early man work featured in the school books, of Mexican public schools.  They also gave a presentation at the PaleoAmericanOdyssey.  And, some of the skeletons that have been retrieved may be some of the oldest in the Western Hemisphere.