new black powder project

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I should also mention the barrel is cut inside with staight rifling. .. lands and grooves I'm told?

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I went to the web page yourl cited eric and didnt see a place to post pics, join, or otherwise discuss.

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Two screws removed the barrel.  There is some sort of glue infused wood chip based bedding the barrel sets on.  All the brass hardware is pinned in place with peened brass rods. The barrel looks like it has a welded nut on it that wasnt done very well. The stock looks formed completely by hand tools as I can obviously see all the file marks and wood gouge marks from making it. Even all the stdokes and direction of them. It seems as though at one point there was a hole bored down inside the stock for the rod to slide into but has maybe been filled with this bedding compound?

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Im worried the nut that welded on the nut may have damaged or warped the barrel. I see hammer marks on the upper side of it as if they were beating it back down.... im sad.

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Bedding compound made of wood chips and dust.

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Brass pins hold in the hardware.

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Those brass ramrod tubes look in the wrong spot.

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Interesting trigger texture

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The nut a nut welded on and bent the barrel downward from the cooling. Im gonna geind that crap off, reheat, bend back, check roundness,  and if out of round, possibly rebore from 45 cal to 48 or 50, if I can keep enough wall thickness. I want the bore small as possible. 

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Not only was he stupid, he wasn't even any good at it. Thats a terrible weld.

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This looks cast to me. Sand possibly from the texture. 

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[wildman]

I have never seen wiping stick thimbles placed like that. I have a few old Traditions/Cva  locks that I will never use PM and you can have them one is in very good working order.  A whole lot of geometry in a lock.

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I have never seen wiping stick thimbles placed like that. I have a few old Traditions/Cva  locks that I will never use PM and you can have them one is in very good working order.  A whole lot of geometry in a lock.

Well thats gosh almighty nice of you! Thanks! Even if the barrel cant be saved I can un-eff this stock and place another barrel in place.

[Eric Krewson]

The fact that is doesn't have a ramrod hole makes it a amateurish home built gun and not an original.

I thought I could see a ramrod hole under the barrel in the lock mortise. The gun has been made from miss matched parts by someone who didn't know what they were doing and is not the original build. I still lean toward the stock being at one time from an original 19th century gun gun.

Welding on a barrel is bad news, it creates all kinds of stress related weaknesses according to the experts at on the long rifle site. A properly mounted barrel will have dovetailed underlugs for pins or keys to hold the stock to it. I miss drilled this one  and had to solder on an extension to beef it up a bit.



http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php

If you can stand honesty from a guy who has done only a couple of scratch flintlock builds, I would make a wall hanger out of the gun and not waste time trying to make a functional gun out of what you have to work with.