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Offline Mark Smeltzer

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Urac ?
« on: April 10, 2015, 09:16:00 pm »
Is it true that you cant buy Urac anymore?
Has anyone tried the Unibond 800?
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Mark

Offline TimothyR

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Re: Urac ?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 11:00:52 pm »
It's true.  Unibond 800 replaced it. I have some but haven't used it yet. I'm sure someone will chim in on how well it works.. I would like to know if its true that it doesn't need heat to cure.
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Offline Eric Krewson

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 11:45:58 pm »
I have been using Unibond, can't tell any difference between it and urac. It cures without heat, takes 7 hours at 70 degrees, an hour at 90 degrees.

Offline Mark Smeltzer

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 11:42:25 am »
Thanks guys I guess Ill give Unibvond a try. I do have some Urac left I wonder what the shelf Life really is with it.

Mark

Offline Pat B

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2015, 12:17:00 pm »
It depends on how its stored. I keep mine(Urac) in a frig and it seems to hold up pretty good. It was about 2 to 3 years old the last time I used it and that was 2 years ago. I haven't checked it lately.
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Offline Prarie Bowyer

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Re: Urac ?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 08:12:19 pm »
Weldwood plastic wood resin.  Less expensive, easier to keep, just as strong.

Offline RBLusthaus

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 09:52:04 am »
Weldwood plastic wood resin.  Less expensive, easier to keep, just as strong.
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Offline Pat B

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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 09:59:08 am »
I've used Weldwood Plastic Resin over the years and really like it for glue-ups. Cheap, easy to use and cleans up with water...but I heard somewhere that it has been or is being phased out.
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Offline Roy

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 10:10:00 am »
Unibond 800 is good stuff..

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 11:54:45 am »
I've used Weldwood Plastic Resin a few times with no complaints.  But, I have a question about it?  It seems to always mix up a little gritty.  Is it supposed to be gritty?
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Offline Pat B

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 12:25:59 pm »
It seemed a bit gritty to me also but so did Urac.
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Offline RBLusthaus

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2015, 12:49:35 pm »
yes, it mixes that way for me too.  Always works though.  I had some issues with URAC a few years back and switched to Weldwood even before it got discontinued.  Have been very happy with it and since it in powder form, if kept dry, it lasts indefinitely. 

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2015, 01:03:54 pm »
...and its cheap. When I bought some a few years ago it was about $5 or a 1# tub from ACE Hardware.
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Re: Urac ?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 03:25:41 pm »
Is weldwood a gap filling glue, suitable for Ipe to bamboo?  I've been using Titebond, but there is some extra prepwork with that cause everything has to be super smooth to get a good glueline.  I'm going to look up the properties, but I'd like to hear from people who have used it - do you need to acetone the Ipe, how smooth do you really need it to be, etc?
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2015, 04:01:22 pm »
It should work well with boo/ipe. It is a gap filing glue. I toothed both surfaces and glued it up. I think fresh wood is a better 
"de-greaser" than acetone or other solvents so sand both glue surfaces, tooth them, blow off the dust and glue it up. I've used a toothing plane and hacksaw blades on the glue surfaces, both with good results.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC