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Offline paco664

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australian pine?
« on: February 21, 2015, 06:00:43 pm »
please don't make fun of my ignorance. but i read where Australian pine was supposedly suitable bow wood.

down here in south florida there isn't exactly a smorgasbord of choices.

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2015, 06:06:59 pm »
  I have been wondering about australian pine. If that one works I would try for a larger diameter on the next one. I know the species is invasive so it should be too hard to find larger specimens.

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2015, 06:18:25 pm »
  I have been wondering about australian pine. If that one works I would try for a larger diameter on the next one. I know the species is invasive so it should be too hard to find larger specimens.
i have another thicker one...  but that end in my hand measures 4.5" in diameter.. the other end is 5" exactly...

i have read that this is also known as sheoak and ironwood...

it was harder than calculus to cut... very very dense wood...
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2015, 06:22:03 pm »
   I thought it was only about 1 1/2 looking at the pic, must be some kind of illusion makes it look smaller.

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2015, 06:54:31 pm »
I think he means circumference. It looks like 1 1/2" to me.

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2015, 07:16:04 pm »
I think he means circumference. It looks like 1 1/2" to me.
yes circumference.... it's been a long day... got up at 5am to work overtime...   :-\
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 09:16:23 pm »
It makes an excellent bow. Parnel and I have both made bows from it. And it has to be the toughest wood I've ever seen with interlocking grain from hell. I broke one o purpose just to see what it would take. The top limb folded over and I propped it against my work bench. When I came back 3 hours later it had gone back to it's form before it broke. I don't think you will have to worry about string follow.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2015, 09:07:15 am »
It is a very good bow wood. I made one quite  a few years ago from a. pine.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2015, 05:43:11 pm »
sweet...

thank you guys for sharing the knowledge... that stuff grows like weeds here and finding ~6' lengths wrist thick is easy as pie...

now to let this stuff dry...
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 08:37:19 pm »
If I get the time I want to try an ELB in the 70-80# range and cut one into boards and do a glue up.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 06:38:09 am »
If I get the time I want to try an ELB in the 70-80# range and cut one into boards and do a glue up.
if ya do let me know. .. that would be worth the trip north to see!
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 08:12:46 am »
Watching this, I have a nice piece over my work bench Eddie[Mullet ] gave me a year or 2 ago. :)
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 09:04:37 am »
I fiddled with it quite a bit when I started out.  I'll recommend it, especially for your learning curve.  I'd cut some saplings and throw them in your car to dry out quick then make some simple "native style" bows to get you tillering, etc.

In my experience it's this time of year to cut it.  The bark will probably peel off in one strip with it not being the growing season.  If you cut in the wet season it sticks to the wood and can be more of a pain to remove.

I don't think that it likes being recurved much and doesn't seem to respond to corrections...but, it isn't hard to find pipe straight stuff.
Follow the grain of the "rays" as close you can.  I've had splinters pop off towards the tips where I've narrowed down.  I really recommend making a very traditional type of SE native American bow with side nocks, bending through the handle, and not narrowing your tips that much.  Keep it traditional.  Much of the wood is over 1.0 in specific gravity and it can perform very impressively.
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2015, 01:10:34 pm »
The bark stripped of like a dream. . I rough shaped it a bit last night and I'm going to let it dry a bit more. ...

I'll follow your suggestion about the type of bow. .

A question. .. should i back it?  And if so what would you suggest as backing material?
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 10:32:57 pm »
Of all the woods in the world to make a bow from, Casuarina may very well be #1 for not needing to be backed.   Look forward to seeing it.
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