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mikekeswick

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2014, 03:11:16 am »
What matters is the grain!!!
IF the grain is dead straight then no need to back it.
IF it isn't then yes back it.
Just the same as when trying to decide wether to back any board or not.
The selfbows I made from it came from a flawless board.
I only mentioned backing it with hickory to show that it was possible. It would be better to back with maple/ash.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2014, 09:07:47 am »
I would love to back them with hickory, but we don't have any available here in Utah in board form. All I can get is Ash, or red/white oak. And I am not sure about the type of Ash. The grain on the wood is the best they had available. It is just at $12 a board foot it gets a little scary  >:D
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2014, 10:59:21 am »
So after about 3 hours on the rasp I'm gonna have to call this stuff Purple Hard. Cut out with a band saw, reduced limb thickness to just about 1/2, and went to town with the rasp. It is under 3/8 now, and I bet would still be about a 100# when the other limb is done as well.

One limb down, 7 to go!
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Offline jeffp51

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2014, 11:47:27 am »
Joe  there is hickory in board form at McBeath's in Salt lake City.  There is also a place here in Utah County.  Look up hardwood lumber in utah on a search engine.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2014, 11:59:57 am »
When I checked on Thursday Macbeath didn't have any hickory. I have an Idea though, Thanks Jeff!
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2014, 11:51:03 am »
We decided to rip the 1x2's down to 1/2 X 2's. Here is the result. New blade, big Rockwell table saw.
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Offline bushboy

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2014, 12:07:50 pm »
Did you smoke your saw?P/H is the hardest wood I have ever worked,that's why I only tried it once.my design wasn't right, took a boat load of set and I broke it on purpose!pretty wood is the only that I like about it.not to discourage hope you make a shooter!
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Offline jeffp51

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2014, 12:46:33 pm »
recently did some purple heart tip overlays.  Yeah, the stuff is hard.  can't imagine doing a whole bow with it.  looking forward to the final results.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2014, 04:18:50 pm »
LOL, Nope, didn't smoke the saw. Just the wood. It took about 5 minutes each cut, and we ended up cutting an inch each side. It even smokes in the band saw. So hopefully the thinner ones will be easier to finish. There will be 6 total bows made out of this wood. All will be backed.
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Offline Tyke

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2014, 11:44:15 pm »
Yeah it got a little smoky heres a close up of joe and our buddy mr. Hatt
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2014, 11:57:46 pm »
Lol. Reminded me of being at the bar.  >:D
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Offline Springbuck

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 06:00:09 pm »
Quote from: JoJoDapyro on December 05, 2014, 09:07:47 am
I would love to back them with hickory, but we don't have any available here in Utah in board form. All I can get is Ash, or red/white oak. And I am not sure about the type of Ash. The grain on the wood is the best they had available. It is just at $12 a board foot it gets a little scary  >:D

I can show you where to get hickory here in Utah.

The deal wioth purple heart is that it is VERY hard, VERY stiff, but not very elastic in compression.  Paduak and cumaru are the same.  Shreddy, yet brittle.  Just prepare for thst.  I have seen several, and made one good laminated bow from it.
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Offline JoJoDapyro

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2014, 09:41:57 am »
It is the hardest wood I have ever dealt with. If anyone ever decides to work with it wear gloves, it get a ton of slivers, and they don't seem to even hurt, kinda strange. It tears out really bad. It is hard to cut, It even makes my band saw blade wander (Wont cut straight up and down). So far I have never had any issues gluing it up (Rosewood gives me fits). More to come. They are getting backed with the dreaded **********. So I guess I'll post photos and blur out the back!  >:D
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Offline bushboy

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2014, 06:54:11 pm »
If I was to try it again I would go 2" at the fades, 66" ttt. And a 3/32 " maple or ash backer. Pyramid.
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Offline bubby

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Re: Purple heart
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2014, 07:01:32 pm »
it does throw slivers like a porcupine
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