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Offline Tiredtim

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Help with a chip
« on: November 18, 2014, 09:41:44 pm »
Hello all, I'm working on my second osage bow (yeah, snapped the first) and I got to the back down to a single growth ring.  But, as it goes, I was working on the handle and a small sliver came off.  My question is should I take it down to the next ring or wrap it with sinew?  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Offline Pat B

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 09:51:33 pm »
Pics will help us understand better what your problem is.
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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 10:12:51 pm »
Post a picture if you can.  Does your handle bend where the chip is?  If its a stiff handle you might be OK. Can't really tell without pictures.
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2014, 02:23:30 pm »
as stated pics would help,, but if the handle is not working, things sound positive,,

Offline Tiredtim

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2014, 08:43:05 pm »
Sorry guys, I hit post before attaching the picture.  How's this?

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2014, 09:26:24 pm »
I'm having trouble finding the splinter in the pic.  But, generally, if the splinter is in the working part of the limb, I would personally go down another ring if I had the wood to do so. A pristine back is a must for me, and starting a bow without that is like driving around on a tire with a chunk of rubber missing.  A patch wont fix it.  It's gonna blow, only question is when.  Having said that, if it is in the handle and the handle doesn't bend any, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2014, 09:31:21 pm »
Or are you referring to the split on the left side of the stave?  If that is what you are referring to, I would say not just no, but heck no!

If that split is where you intend to have the face transitioning from grip to limb, that area is under tremendous strain.  AND, if that is the case, I have had that happen.  A stiff handled bow suddenly became a bend in the handle design! 
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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2014, 10:49:15 pm »
Is that a split or a tear out on the left side? If its a tear out and you have enough thickness i would chase another ring. If it is a split i have repaired a split like that with glue and a sinew wrap before but i think JW's advice to make a bendy handle is probably a better idea.
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Offline bentstick54

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2014, 11:12:28 pm »
Looks like the sliver starts right where your fade starts. Definitely chase another ring if that is true,IMHO.

Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2014, 02:43:03 pm »
go to the next ring if you can,, and work the handle area with a rasp,, you might want to make the transition a little longer,, not such a steep angle,,

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2014, 03:37:55 pm »
Agree with Brad. Lengthen your transition out to 2" instead of 1/2".

Offline Tiredtim

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2014, 08:22:59 pm »
Thanks guys.  That was what I was needing to know.  I'll get to work on chasing another. 

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 08:44:29 pm »
Before you chase another ring.  If that split along the side is the issue, then chasing another ring wont matter from what I see.  It appears as though your centerline leaves only half as much wood on one side as the other because of the split????  My question is, what is the width of the working limb outside the fade?  JW's advice of making a bendy may be your best advice, and chasing another ring will not fix anything if that split is more than a ring deep.  Though I do agree that making the fade longer is a good idea generally, it looks like you wont be able to get past that split regardless.  If I am reading it right, then keeping the handle width the same , or close to the same as the working limb (no flare out) may be the best and perhaps the only option.  No biggie there, just make it a bendy.  Curious as to what you come up with.
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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2014, 08:51:57 pm »
Is it a split or has a little sliver of wood popped out. How deep is that crack we're looking at.

Offline Tiredtim

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Re: Help with a chip
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 08:00:40 pm »
Okay Bob, let me ask you a question. When you say "bendy", do you mean a thinner bow all the way down so that it will bend at the handle?  I never thought about that.  I'm still new at this building and want to make sure I'm understanding.  I like that idea.  It's hard chasing those rings.  Or it's hard for me I should say.