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Offline Tommytinker

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Best laminating glue U.K.
« on: August 19, 2014, 07:33:05 pm »
Looking for a smooth on equivalent that I can get in the U.K.

Any thoughts guys? 
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2014, 08:22:51 pm »
Can you get Unibond? Made by Nelson Paint Co. (US)  If not try Weldwood Plastic Resin. It is a urea glue like Unibond(Urac185 was the original) in powder form and all you do is add water to mix. I learned about Weldwood Plastic Resin from a guy from Italy and it worked well for me.
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Offline Tommytinker

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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 08:41:48 pm »
I can't get unibond but I can get weldwood.

Does it need air to cure? Or does it cure like an epoxy?
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Offline Pat B

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 11:47:59 pm »
It's a chemical reaction like Urac or Unibond. It cures at room temp(approx. 70 deg (F)) but cures faster at higher temps. I haven't used it in a few years so I don't remember the specifics about it.  It is relatively inexpensive here. Maybe do a test with it first before you trust it to a bow but I glued hickory and boo backings on different woods and riser blocks and never had a glue failure.
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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 12:36:08 am »
You can also get 'Cascamite" there. Pretty sure it's more or less the same thing as Weldwood.
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Offline WillS

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 04:16:34 am »
Resorcinol, Cascamite, Resintite or a bog standard 2 part epoxy all work for gluing up bows.  I didn't believe the 2 part epoxy would work, but somebody I shoot with makes heavy laminated warbows using epoxy with no failures yet. 
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Offline Tommytinker

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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 09:01:02 am »
Thanks for the replies.

Any brands of epoxy that could be recommended? Again, that I can get in the UK.
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Offline PatM

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 10:27:42 am »
You can get Araldite and WEST G-Flex from Axminster. They also have the equivalent of Urac and Resorcinol.
 You have many choices and some would say the last two are better than Epoxy.
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Offline WillS

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 11:00:38 am »
Bloke I shoot with in the UK swears by Araldite 2 part epoxy, the stuff in the tubes.  One set of tubes does one lamination, so you'd need two packs for a tri lam.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 12:13:32 pm »
i began using weldwood when URAC went under a few years ago at Pat Bs suggestion and I have been happy.  I have had no major issues with it, and it was quite inexpensive compared to the others.  I only use it though when working w Bamboo.  Wood to wood I still use TBIII. 
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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 01:28:19 pm »
Humbrol Extraphen (resourcinol) for me.  Super tough 2-pack adhesive.  Sticks any wood to any other, including oily exotics, in my experience.
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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 01:35:04 pm »
I use Resintite.
I have also used a 2hour epoxy. Araldite is ridiculously expensive.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 02:21:17 pm »
That's true.  I would imagine any 2 part epoxy is the same as Araldite.  You can get those good 151 ones in most shops.
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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2014, 03:00:55 pm »
Quote from: WillS on August 20, 2014, 02:21:17 pm
That's true.  I would imagine any 2 part epoxy is the same as Araldite.  You can get those good 151 ones in most shops.
They differ hugely in properties, I got the 2 hour one from a model supplies place, can't remember the name, but they had loads of good stuff at reasonable prices in sensible quantities.
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Offline Tommytinker

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Re: Best laminating glue U.K.
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2014, 04:38:47 pm »
Wow, there really is a whole world of glue out there!
Thank you for all the replies, it's been most helpful!
Just to clarify can I completely wrap a glue up, if using one of the urac style urea formaldehyde powdered glues?  Or does it need air to cure?   
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