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Offline PatM

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2014, 06:27:05 pm »
There are no "merits" just "properties".  :P
 Things certainly get blurry when we freely discuss and tout the benefits of FF and Dacron over natural fibers for bowstring and a bow really isn't a bow until you put the string on it.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2014, 07:54:22 pm »
I still wonder why on earth modern glues and finishes are acceptable here.

Offline Pat B

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2014, 08:41:28 pm »
Because they have been allowed since the beginning of the site. You can use all natural glues if you want but we do allow a few modern synthetic materials and finishes. Actually you will probably be applauded for using all natural materials, finishes and glues. I do this stuff for fun, not to be realistic.
 The rules were set up to allow as many folks to get involved in this fun and still be traditional. If everyone had to use only natural materials this site probably wouldn't be here. I am proud to be a part of a site that has turned so many folks on to the fun of wood bow building.
 The earlier issues of PA magazine were pretty close to all natural materials but it's hard to survive as a magazine with a few stave sellers or folks selling sinew, hide glue or whatever. It took modern advertising to keep PA afloat and without PA we have no site. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2014, 08:55:57 pm »
Because they have been allowed since the beginning of the site. You can use all natural glues if you want but we do allow a few modern synthetic materials and finishes. Actually you will probably be applauded for using all natural materials, finishes and glues. I do this stuff for fun, not to be realistic.
 The rules were set up to allow as many folks to get involved in this fun and still be traditional. If everyone had to use only natural materials this site probably wouldn't be here. I am proud to be a part of a site that has turned so many folks on to the fun of wood bow building.
 The earlier issues of PA magazine were pretty close to all natural materials but it's hard to survive as a magazine with a few stave sellers or folks selling sinew, hide glue or whatever. It took modern advertising to keep PA afloat and without PA we have no site. 

Well said Pat B,  Thank you for being a Moderator, I'm glad you are.......
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Hi.nylon backing
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2014, 10:26:26 pm »
deer hide is my favorite backing ,,, it is light enough that it does not slow the bow down,, but it will protect the back,, and hold a splinter,, it is very strong,, and beautiful when finished,,,

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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2014, 10:57:25 pm »
I love this site, but this guy posted a simple question on his first post. And in response his post led to a debate of what is appropriate for this site. Do I need to say anymore? P.s. to me primitive me being resourceful. Modern or not. Basically cheap.

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2014, 11:22:50 pm »
Renacs,

You are right. I watched and let it go all day till it got highjacked. The rules are simple. Also when you register you are asked if you have read the Rules.

And it never fails, then the debate starts about glue, boards, plastic, epoxy, and on and on. Gets really boring after you see it every 6 months. Oh, and then there is the same ones that want to question the rules to stir the pot.
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2014, 11:39:38 pm »
Renacs,

You are right. I watched and let it go all day till it got highjacked. The rules are simple. Also when you register you are asked if you have read the Rules.

And it never fails, then the debate starts about glue, boards, plastic, epoxy, and on and on. Gets really boring after you see it every 6 months. Oh, and then there is the same ones that want to question the rules to stir the pot.


Did you call? ;) I do have to say if you have Binghams as a advertiser, it really does send mixed messages.....doesn't it? Like all things in life, change is going to happen.....why not have a place for partial synthetic bows??? Come on guys things need to evolve. :)

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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 11:48:40 pm »
They do have a place Brian, it's around the campfire
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 11:51:46 pm »
But I do agree that the modern stuff needs to be kept in check some. That's why I stay away from the other sites. All fiberglass stuff, but give the new guy a break and stead him in the right direction.  ;)

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 12:02:53 am »
This thread started out good with quite a few good replies to the original post. But after no acknowledgement it went off kilter. Not the first time that's happened, either. That's why we Admins and Mods get paid the big bucks.  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 03:00:04 am »
They do have a place Brian, it's around the campfire


I'm just giving Eddie a hard time......I know the rules. :laugh:
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 07:42:08 am »
Brian; you know I'll just call you up and tell you to "bite me" :).
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2014, 07:52:14 am »
My apologies for bringing it up in the first place.
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Re: Hi.nylon backing
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2014, 08:22:58 am »
Integrity can be too harsh without reasonable compromise. In my book, even brown paper is as modern as nylon. If artificial sinew is as good as the real one, I would have no problem in using it. I would love to see a bow backed with pre-stretched nylon and hide glue. Still I would try burlab before nylon.