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Offline Badger

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 11:00:12 am »
  Thats a good job Del, not easy to get that kind of weight from that design at that length.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2014, 11:15:07 am »
Cheers ;D
Errrr, I think I maybe need to move it to the warbow section! >:D
I just struggled to shoot a few of my 11/32" shafted arrows and it rang like a bell, and the brace dropped about 1/4"
I twisted up the string and shot some of my 3/8" heavy weight 32" 763 grain arrows.
I got the right elbow high and came over and down warbow style but to anchor front of my chin, much easier and smoother.
Whoooomp... straight as ... well an arrow  ::) and it rocked the boss backwards. I think it's maybe as fast and hard as the 100# Elm warbow.
I'll try and rig up the chrono if I can avoid shooting it!
Del
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BANG!!
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2014, 11:39:44 am »
DAMN!
I got the chono all set up with the lighting better...
Got.
it..
to...
FulldrawandBANG... :o
But it's a very good quality break ::) shows the limbs were nice and evenly stressed. Big split ran right through the handle and pinched my finger!
Shame it never shot through the chrono.... :-[ :'(
Makes me wonder if I over drew slightly, maybe went towards my normal full draw??
Still, at least I got the pics and shot a few arrows.
Gives me an idea of how far to push it next time.
Gotta look on the bright side, at least I don't have to do all that finishing ;) ;D
Del
@ At WillH... yeah, smooth until the nasty BANG >:D
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Offline dwardo

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2014, 11:46:31 am »
Commiserations Dell. Lived fast died young.
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2014, 11:48:45 am »
Bummer..........
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Offline Onebowonder

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2014, 11:49:41 am »
Very nearly moved to tears for you here brother!  I mean we all know these things happen, ...but we never quite get used to them!  Sassarasafrassa sufferen succatash!

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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2014, 12:04:02 pm »
... I don't s'pose you want to see the tip overlays now? :laugh:
Just looked at the breaks, the back gave way just inboard of mid limb.
Gotta get me some more Elder now, that bit was a fallen bit I picked up on the cycle track.
http://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/fallen-elder.html
Looks like Monkey bow has the last laugh oooh oooh Aaaah aaaah aaaah!
Del
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Offline PaulN/KS

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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2014, 01:41:30 pm »
Perhaps it's name, "Elder Statesman", was it's downfall as politicians are all about broken promises... ;)
It sure looked great while it lasted tho Del.
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Offline 4dog

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 02:07:21 pm »
lmbo ^^^^ this!!
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Offline Badger

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2014, 02:53:58 pm »
Del, I seem to limit out around 60# on those type bows unless I make them considerably wider which I haven't done yet. Osage might be better wood to try that same design again. 
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2014, 03:33:40 pm »
Quote from: Badger on July 14, 2014, 02:53:58 pm
Del, I seem to limit out around 60# on those type bows unless I make them considerably wider which I haven't done yet. Osage might be better wood to try that same design again.
Cheers, yeah, I think I got a bit carried away and greedy, but it was sort of experimental.
I'll have a lot better idea what I'm doing next time (e.g. more than zero  ;) )
Maybe 60 @28" from a slightly longer bow, bit more reflex and a more carefully worked out reflex.
Starting out with a better bit of timber would have helped, I had a good bit of twist, knots and a ridge along the back the cope with.
Mind I blame it all on the FF string  ;) >:D (joke... guys... its a joke....)
Del
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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2014, 04:24:08 pm »
Ohh my, I can hear sad bad sound Del.
But as you said a good experiment and I believe its possible. Would be interesting where the crack did start.
My thoughts on string:
FF is a wide range of materials with very different pros and cons.
For me, I'm convinced the BCY 452X is best for wooden bows, because its a mixture of vectran and dynema and still is a bit stretchy with no creep. I never do pure dynema materials for my strings. Just my 2 cents.

Forgot to say, I use 6 strands up to 70pounders, and 4 strands up to 40. when you use more strands, you loose the stretch.
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Offline Del the cat

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2014, 05:24:15 pm »
Hi, yeah, the string was 10 strands of Astro Flight... I was just kidding about the string really, I don't think it was a contributory factor. I just hear so many people on another forum talking about FF bing bad for logbows, which is nonsense IMO.
I have a suspicion, I was too busy lining up with the chrono, I might have drawn to 28" ::). Anyhow, I learned a good bit from it, and it's good to try new stuff.
I think the break was about 1/3 to 1/2 way along the limbs out from the grip on the back, looks like they both blew together. It was certainly spectacular!
Del
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Offline Onebowonder

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2014, 05:29:05 pm »
Quote from: Del the cat on July 14, 2014, 05:24:15 pm
<snip>It was certainly spectacular!
Del

Don't you wish you'd had the slow-motion camera setup and watching that one!?

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Offline mwosborn

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Re: Elder Statesman!
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2014, 10:43:42 pm »
"Elder Statesman" .... may he rest in peace.

I have had a few blow up in my hand like that - never quite get used to it.  Good luck on the next one.
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Enjoy the hunt!  Mitch
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