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Offline Clean_Missed

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 04:23:49 pm »
I made a decision and have commenced with piking the bow. Part of the decision is due to the fact that I had a different string ordered than I thought (for a 68" N2N bow) so I have Trimmed the tips, beveled the ends and spliced on cherry tips with a purple heart overlay. I'm hoping that I'll have gained a few pounds after re-tillering. I am still toying with the idea of trying to temper the belly with some heat. I watched Marc St.Louis' videos on heat treating and it doesn't seem to difficult, just time consuming. As of yet Im undecided.

Adam, I know you said I should save the fancy stuff for a few bows down the road but he Lord hates a coward, right?  ;)
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2014, 04:43:48 pm »
OK, my opinion of the tiller, badly whip tillered with real hingy spots about a foot in from the tips and stiff spots for aways from the handle out. Make a tillering gizmo, get the rest of the limbs bending evenly and then pike the bow.

Offline adb

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 04:53:50 pm »
OK, my opinion of the tiller, badly whip tillered with real hingy spots about a foot in from the tips and stiff spots for aways from the handle out. Make a tillering gizmo, get the rest of the limbs bending evenly and then pike the bow.

Badly whip tillered?? I think you should clean your glasses and have another look. If you think that's whip tillered, you've never seen a whip tillered bow. Other than the top fade being a bit stiff, his tiller is fine.

Here's what whip tillered looks like:

Not sure who is in the pic... just found this with a google search.

Offline adb

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2014, 05:05:21 pm »
Don't let me hold you back, Brendon! Pretty much everyone hates a coward! You wanna heat treat... I say go for it!

Offline Blaflair2

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2014, 06:05:53 pm »
I would go for it if that's what u think, my first bow I did things ppl said I shouldn't. Hell I still do >:D
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Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2014, 06:21:28 pm »
I was very skeptical about the risk/reward when I first started heat tempering.  I have found little risk if any.
Don't burn it clean thru.
Don't heat treat the back.
Outside of that, it's pretty simple with a lot of upside.
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2014, 08:27:17 pm »
I have made a lot of bows and call them as I see them. Run a gizmo up those limbs at it will show you exactly what I mentioned, guaranteed. 145 bows worth of experience has given me a pretty good eye and my glasses are spotlessly clean.

As for the picture, that is not what a whip tillered bow looks like, that is what poorly tillered, hinged at mid limb bow looks like looks like. A whip tillered bow is bending some some out of the fades(the bow in the picture is not) and a lot more in the outer third.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 08:35:18 pm by Eric Krewson »

Offline adb

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2014, 08:35:08 pm »
Well, Eric, regardless of how many bows you've made, your 'eye' in this case is off. This bow is not 'badly whip tillered.' It's not even a little whip tillered. Did you look at the pic of a whip tillered bow? Do yourself a favour and look at it again and then go back and look at this bow. I'm not sure what you're seeing.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 08:55:54 pm by adb »

Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2014, 08:40:36 pm »
Didn't mean for this to get into a P$$$ing match, you all make bows any way you like, call them anything you want.

My bows have won dozens of state championships, 4 or 5 national championships and finished 2nd and 3rd in the worlds this year, I know a little about making bows and how to tiller them. 

Offline SLIMBOB

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2014, 08:55:43 pm »
I too made the observation that this bow is not whip tillered. I don't believe it is based on my definition of a whip tillered bow. I stand behind that observation, again based on my definition. A little loose in the outer limbs maybe, but even that is debatable. Not taking anything away from your expertise or accomplishments at all. We just disagree on this one.
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Offline adb

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2014, 08:57:07 pm »
Didn't mean for this to get into a P$$$ing match, you all make bows any way you like, call them anything you want.

My bows have won dozens of state championships, 4 or 5 national championships and finished 2nd and 3rd in the worlds this year, I know a little about making bows and how to tiller them.

Seems to me the only one making this a pi$$ing match is you. What do your self congratulatory accomplishments have to do with the tiller on this bow?

Offline 4dog

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2014, 10:09:57 pm »
what just happened??  lol  ???
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Offline adb

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2014, 10:41:52 pm »
I think what happened was, someone stepped in it and now they're trying to scrape it off their shoe.

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2014, 10:57:27 pm »
Tiller is good. It is very slightly whip tillered but that's ok as it is a good design for a bow that is a little longer than neede.
I'd enjoy it as is.
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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Can I Trim this to fix it?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2014, 10:59:38 pm »
Oops. I missed that you started piking. :) Jawge
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