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Offline Squirrelslayer

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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 06:31:18 am »
zomibies aswell :o now im scared  :laugh: SS
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 09:26:39 am »
Some points
1.Sound as stated
2.Wt is also a factor. 20 miles with a gun no fun.
3. Won't jam
4. Not being banned by congress yet
5. The bow can be tossed and remade if you need to excape an area in a hurry.
6. Warm to the touch in the winter while hunting.
7. Doesn't have a safety that need to be taken off before firing.
8. Can kill deer and fish legally
9. Cost zero dollars
10 requires no background check for making one (yet)
11. Can be used to out shoot Stringman in shootin match everytime!
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 09:46:26 am »
Some points
1.Sound as stated
2.Wt is also a factor. 20 miles with a gun no fun.
3. Won't jam
4. Not being banned by congress yet
5. The bow can be tossed and remade if you need to excape an area in a hurry.
6. Warm to the touch in the winter while hunting.
7. Doesn't have a safety that need to be taken off before firing.
8. Can kill deer and fish legally
9. Cost zero dollars
10 requires no background check for making one (yet)
11. Can be used to out shoot Stringman in shootin match everytime!

12. 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets.
13. don't need a licence to own or make a bow

feel free to add to the list everyone. SS
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Offline Slackbunny

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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2013, 10:07:11 am »
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12. 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets.

That can't be right. In fact I know its not right, unless you are packing a big bore rifle. Just weighed one of my 12Ga shotgun shells and it weighs a little over 710 grains, which is comparable to a hunting arrow. Now my shotgun shell isn't the heaviest of firearm ammo, but it isn't the lightest either. Maybe in some cases 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets, but that is definitely not a general rule.

Offline Squirrelslayer

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2013, 10:23:01 am »
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12. 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets.

That can't be right. In fact I know its not right, unless you are packing a big bore rifle. Just weighed one of my 12Ga shotgun shells and it weighs a little over 710 grains, which is comparable to a hunting arrow. Now my shotgun shell isn't the heaviest of firearm ammo, but it isn't the lightest either. Maybe in some cases 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets, but that is definitely not a general rule.

i meant 100 arrows are lighter than 50 rifle bullets. and im talking about like aluminium arrows. also does anyone know how many grams=1 grain
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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 10:48:57 am »
Have you ever tried carrying 100 arrows?

That's a lot of arrows, but its not unreasonable to carry 300 .223 rounds in 10 30rd mags.

I love both weapons and there are advantages to each, but regarding modern combat, the firearm will dominate every time.

For me, the bow is a fantastic self reliance weapon, but I'd take dang near any firearm- if I knew I was going into a firefight- before a bow
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 11:46:54 am »
^^^^ What he said. And if we're going on the whole zombie thing, let's say that there's someone out there who is VERY interested in whatever it is you have (food, water, ammo, etc.) and is willing to kill you for it. Me? The minute they present themselves as a threat, I'm shooting 'till slide-lock.
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2013, 11:54:16 am »
^^^^ What he said. And if we're going on the whole zombie thing, let's say that there's someone out there who is VERY interested in whatever it is you have (food, water, ammo, etc.) and is willing to kill you for it. Me? The minute they present themselves as a threat, I'm shooting 'till slide-lock.
Conserve ammo.  double-tap.

This argument is pointless.  Bows and firearms both have their place, and the only overlap is hunting (to be differentiated from shooting meat)
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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2013, 12:26:03 pm »
ss,

     1 Gram = 15.4323584 Grains

     1 Grain = 0.06479891 Gram

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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2013, 12:41:35 pm »
it is NOT pointless  SEE #11 lol
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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2013, 12:45:44 pm »
ss,

     1 Gram = 15.4323584 Grains

     1 Grain = 0.06479891 Gram

dpg

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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2013, 07:28:15 pm »
Some guns can be as much fun as bows, especially if you make them yourself.


Offline Elnathan

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2013, 08:12:44 pm »
That being said, if I had to choose between a traditional muzzle-loading flintlock and an English longbow in a fight, I'd take the bow every time. I wouldn't like taking a knee to reload for thirty seconds between shots.


On the other hand, you can easily shoot from behind cover, have a range advantage (at least with a rifled piece), if using a smoothbore you can fire multible projectiles, and can punch through pretty much any body armor invented prior to kevlar. Despite repeated claims to the contrary, the best scientific tests indicate that the longbow couldn't reliably pierce contemporary armor, and I imagine that the Native American wooden armor was pretty good at stopping flint-tipped arrows.

When given the choice, people who were familiar with both seem to have sprung for the flintlock - the exceptions being the Plains Indians, who used both side by side due to an environment which made the faster firing rate of a bow a high priority.

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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2013, 08:19:49 pm »
Some points
1.Sound as stated
2.Wt is also a factor. 20 miles with a gun no fun.
3. Won't jam
4. Not being banned by congress yet
5. The bow can be tossed and remade if you need to excape an area in a hurry.
6. Warm to the touch in the winter while hunting.
7. Doesn't have a safety that need to be taken off before firing.
8. Can kill deer and fish legally
9. Cost zero dollars
10 requires no background check for making one (yet)
11. Can be used to out shoot Stringman in shootin match everytime!

12. 100 arrows are lighter than 50 bullets.
13. don't need a licence to own or make a bow

feel free to add to the list everyone. SS


14. Impossible to shoot yourself with lol
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Re: guns vs bows
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2013, 09:42:45 pm »
If our society faulted for any reason,huge solar flare .meteor strike,coldara volcanic eruption ,golbal pandemic ,atomic war ect it would be hard to make a gun out of a tree!
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