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Offline steve b.

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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2012, 11:32:53 pm »
The stone throwers have no life so just feel sorry for them.  By the way, how do you know the stave is female?   O:)

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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2012, 01:06:53 am »
I just know. We have a connection  8)
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2012, 01:13:18 pm »
I'm liking it Bryce, keep it coming. Danny
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2012, 01:50:31 pm »
On your heat bending the tips.Do you temper the steam bent one with dry heat too[and how soon is that done after steam bending?] or is your bend far enough to the tip that it should'nt pull out being steam bent?
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2012, 02:45:20 pm »
On your heat bending the tips.Do you temper the steam bent one with dry heat too[and how soon is that done after steam bending?] or is your bend far enough to the tip that it should'nt pull out being steam bent?

Nope no tempering. I did over bend each end bc I'm expecting them to pull out just a bit. And corrections can be made later.
On the side I did with dry heat I used just enough heat to bend.
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2013, 03:39:13 pm »
Okay on this sinew job I'm going to try the commercial hide glue. But I do highly recommend Knox gelatin. 1/4cup warm water/packet. Consistency matching a lite syrup.

Tools and materials.
The ladies brownie pan... Sshhhhh ;) hide glue, acetone
A knife, sinew shredding comb, a hair comb, sinew and of course a bow stave roughly tillered or even fully tillered.





I take my knife, rasp or hack saw blade. To LIGHTLY make longitudinal scuff marks the full length of the bow.






Then remove all dirt and oil left behind by my fingers.





Okay let's shred some sinew. This is back strap sinew it's a little easier to shed then leg sinew.
I grab the 3 pieces that are all similar in length and spin it in my hand to loosen up the fibers.



Then take it over to the sinew shredding comb and rip the fibers apart, and spin in the hand the fray up the ends and eventually pull apart by hand and sort into piles according to size. Always shred more than you need.










Next I like to soak my sinew in LUKE warm water, better to be colder then too warm. For 10-15 mins.
this relaxes the sinew and makes it easier to stretch out before applying.



Next I take some warm water and lightly dampen the back. This helps raise the fibers in the wood.
Then size the bow with the his glue I mixed with warm water the a light syrup consistency.



The steam keeps the glue nice and warm a small crock pot works just as good

I did mix up more just didn't document the process bc I forgot lol.

Sizing a light layer of glue.



It's really cold in my shop so the glue is gelling too fast but still too much glue is not a good thing, push all the excess off.




Then I pull out 10-15 strands at a time to make up a bundle. Pull and stretched the sinew out then dipped and squeezed in the hide glue removing all the excess glue.
Then comb it out and apply.








The first course is the most important. And I'm a bit anal about over lapping fibers anyways.





Then I smoothed it out with a wooden dowel.




I do straight down the center slightly overlapping each bundle.
And stagger the side courses like laying down bricks.




Once done I take a piece of parchment paper (NOT wax paper)
Place them over the recurved ends and wrap, so while the fibers shrink they don't left up.





Now I place the stave in a room set to 70ish deg. The next morning I took individual fibers and filled any gaps.


Okay I put the bow away and I'll pull it out in a week to get 2 1/5 more courses :)




-Pinecone
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2013, 04:32:58 pm »
Update, overnight the bow (stiff floor tiller) has pulled 3/4" of reflex.
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2013, 04:54:43 pm »
Bryce, when you size the back of the bow, how long do you wait before you start laying down the sinew?  Does the glue have to dry at all or is the reason for sizing just to make certain the wood is saturated and doesn't absorb all of the glue away from the sinew?

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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2013, 04:58:18 pm »
The sizing of the back insures the glue is thoughouly secured in the fibers of the wood. The warm water opened up the pores, swells the fibers and thins the glue to get as much penatration as possible.
By the time I put the sinew down the sizing was tacky.
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2013, 06:03:11 pm »
Atta boy!

I have the exact same 5 gallon pot and electric burner, but a different cinder block! 

I have been threatening to do a bild alng sinew job where I show how to comb the sinew to get the best possible alignment of fibers, but you did it for me!  Thanks for saving me the work. 

Yup, this is gonna be interesting.  I'm filling my two largest buckets with irregular sized rocks as we speak!  This may be fun!
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2013, 06:05:45 pm »
Oooooh what kind of rocks?!
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2013, 06:10:59 pm »
Just hard, sharp, pointy ones that are totally unfit for knapping!   ;D
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2013, 12:24:28 am »
Just hard, sharp, pointy ones that are totally unfit for knapping!   ;D

For some reason I don't believe you....  :o
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2013, 01:37:10 am »
man is it coming along! i haven't even started a new one yet! (need to get a new tillering tree)
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Re: Sinew Backed Yew Build Along.
« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2013, 02:08:45 am »
Fine job :)
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