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Offline Lars Groteballen

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 09:25:34 pm »
Possible black locust but it's so straight and non-gnarly that I never considered it.  All the other black locust in my woods are all bent up. 

Offline okie64

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 09:28:44 pm »
It could be black locust or it could be mulberry but its not black cherry. Ive cut and split lots of black cherry dor firewood and it looks nuthin like that.

Offline sharpend60

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 09:38:52 pm »
Its not black cherry. I'm looking at a known stave, as we speak.


Offline Roy

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 09:44:13 pm »
Looks like Mongolian Tulip to me.

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 10:13:33 pm »
Is that the only tree in the area with that style of bark try to find another tree that looks like it maybe you will find some leaves Could it be water oak
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Offline vinemaplebows

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 10:22:48 pm »
I live in Wa. state, and some of the black locust here is pipe straight. Locust is only a guess.
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Offline okie64

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 10:27:39 pm »
I forgot about mongolian tulip Roy. That does look a lot like what you have, it makes great bows but is extremely rare. I think pearl drums made a few bows from it, maybe he'll chime in shortly.

Offline Roy

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2012, 10:42:19 pm »
Yup okie and it is native to Ohio.

Offline TacticalFate

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 11:02:35 pm »
if you can get a twig that would help with ID, that's the surest way in the winter, and I've got lots of friends taking Dendrology right now.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 11:29:21 pm by TacticalFate »

Offline Lars Groteballen

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2012, 11:18:08 pm »
Twig it is.

Offline MWirwicki

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 09:22:14 am »
The bark is pretty distinct on Black Locust.  I don't believe that it's BL...
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Offline carpentertimw

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2012, 09:40:36 am »
Both bark and wood color on that is just like our black locust. And ours will grow straight for a 20 foot section.  :)

Offline lostarrow

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2012, 10:07:11 am »
Long thorns on the twig and trunk=Honey locust. Short thorns like a rose = Black locust. No thorns = Hybrid(sunburst)

Offline LJB

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2012, 11:33:26 am »
I doubt this is BL.
First, the Bark doesn't look like BL the way i am familiar with it.
Second, the sapwood usualy is spread over more anual rings then it is in this case.
Also The rings of BL mostly are wide in the center of the log and get thinner to the outside of the log.

But, as i live in Europe things could be way different here and i could be totally wrong  ;) .
Without twigs or leaves this mystery is not gonna be solved i guess  ::) .
By the way, looking at the pictures i could not stop my mind from thinking of Pine.....

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Re: Mystery staves
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2012, 02:34:49 pm »
So, if it is one of the oaks (...)
It's not an oak, since it's lacking the ray flecks. Google "oak ray" to see what I mean. It's a really tell-tale sign in oak.

looks like Black Cherry to me. Ring porus, darkish heartwood, flakey, platey bark.
Cherry is diffuse porous...not ring porous like an oak species. From the first picture, I really can't see the pores, so I don't know if it's ring- or diffuse porous. Lars, can you tell from the end grain?

I'm pretty sure that second pic is a black locust piece. Is the first pic from the same tree? I don't think so?
If you happen to have a UV black light nearby, put a piece of heartwood under it. Does it appear fluorescent?

Lars, I have to ask...do you know what you Dutch last name "Groteballen" means in English? :D
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