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Offline Del the cat

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'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« on: November 04, 2012, 12:57:13 pm »
I expect someone has done this before, but maybe not documented it.
I'd been wanting to try it for ages, I'm doing a longbow and there are a fair few nots to plug.
An ordinary plug looks a bit obvious with straight grain going across it, so I used a small branch of Yew to make a plug from the heart wood with it's natural circular grain. The plug looks just like the original not, but it is clean and solid, where the original had a black powdery layer all round it, so it wasn't solid with the parent wood.
I cleaned up the area around it to show it off... the bow is still a long way from finished.
The pic shows the plug and the small branch it was filed from.
Sorry if this is already well known trick :-[
The knot goes in towards the sapwood an makes it bulge, but had almost grown over leaving just a tiny hole showing. I cleaned out the hole to sound wood and loaded it with yew dust/epoxy mix, so that when I pushed in the plug it filled any voids and oozed out of the small hole in the sapwood.
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Offline Newindian

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 01:55:22 pm »
Even if it is well known you just taught it to all us new Bowerys
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 02:53:09 pm »
Its new to me.-)....awsome trick

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 03:21:17 pm »
good idea....very smart..
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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 03:48:18 pm »
Nicely done Del, that looks like it belongs there. Makes sense to me but probably would not have thought of it myself, cool beans.
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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 04:23:06 pm »
The technique also allows for the awsome opportunity to repair a knot, within a knot, within a knot;-)

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Offline druid

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 04:14:13 am »
I didn't know this. I never repair these things but it is good to know. Thank you Del!  :)

Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 12:06:18 am »
An amazingly obvious solution....once someone has shown it to me!  My hindsight certainly does not need glasses.

Another added benefit:  it's more aesthetically pleasing than the straight grain plugs, too.
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Offline dmenzies1950

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 02:18:04 am »
I've been building bows for a long time and never thought of that! Man that looks good! Thanks for sharing that with the rest of us. I'm sure I'll try it next time I have a loose knot!   Dale
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Offline PaulN/KS

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 02:27:31 am »
Ryan Yoon, a very talented young bowyer, made some tapered osage plugs to patch the knot holes in a cedar bow that he made at Mojam this summer. The contrast looked pretty cool...
Del's version looks great too, you have to look pretty close to see that it's a patch.
Nice job!

Offline Del the cat

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 04:10:53 am »
An amazingly obvious solution....once someone has shown it to me!  My hindsight certainly does not need glasses.

Another added benefit:  it's more aesthetically pleasing than the straight grain plugs, too.
It's the aesthetics that I was really after as some of my bows have so many plugs they look like my grandmothers patchwork quilt ;D
I love those simple obvious things that make you wonder why you never tried it before.
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Offline Bowman

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 05:38:40 am »
This is a very smart solution. I have a yew stave that maybee need things in that way. Very clean and aesthetically.  :D
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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 02:45:11 pm »
super idea! that looks very natural. I would be careful when the hole/plug goes that deep (into sapwood). IMO a plug can handle pressure forces, but not tension forces.

thanks for sharing the idea

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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 04:45:23 pm »
super idea! that looks very natural. I would be careful when the hole/plug goes that deep (into sapwood). IMO a plug can handle pressure forces, but not tension forces.

thanks for sharing the idea

simson
Yes indeed, I was careful not to remove any of the sapwood.
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Re: 'New'? Knot Filling Trick
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 09:34:02 pm »
Great idea. Guess i was never smart enough to think of sticking a knot into a knothole. :-\
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