thanks guys. I have thoroughly enjoyed the brother hood of the bow since I got into it about 5-6 yrs ago , but it always seemed a bit incomplete until I was able to make meat with it. That I think is what its all about. Being able to provide for your family with persevarance and the effort with ones own hands. Its kind of like when you grow your own veggies and fruit by the sweat of your brow. Its very satisfying. Its also reminds me to cultivate gratitude to my creator for giving me the opportunity. That is something that cannot be purchased but must be earned. Danny