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Offline Patches

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Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« on: October 24, 2012, 02:03:10 pm »
I just finished a hedge bow, and have put 5 coats of tru oil on it.  I was wanting to put something on there to make it more water resisitant, but I read that polyurethane does not work with tru oil.  Does anyone know if shellac will stick to tru oil so that I can get a water resistant finish?  Does anyone have any suggestions other than shellac?  Thanks for any help.
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Offline RBLusthaus

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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 02:24:50 pm »
I would recommend a couple extra coats of the tru oil and then put some wax over the top.  Forget the shellac. 

But to answer your Q - - yes, I think shellac would stick just fine -  it sticks to everything else.  -  but I don't think it is a very water resistant finish.  I use shellac as my only finish on kids bows as it is easily touched up and applied by kids. 

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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 02:26:13 pm »
I use satin polyurethane over tru-oil on my hunting bows to cut the shine.  It seems to stick just fine.
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 02:42:20 pm »
in my experience, shellac sticks to anything. I mainly use tru oil as my finish and lay down a few coats of shellac before the tru oil.  On my bows I do as Osage Outlaw does to cut the shine on my hunting bows with a few coats of satin poly after applying the tru oil.  Seems to work fine for me.
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 03:29:02 pm »
Thanks for the information everybody.  I was wanting to cut the shine down too, and had thought about the satin polyurethane, but what I read said it would not stick.  I will give it a try.  Its my first osage bow that I have finished and I didn't want to screw it up.  I am taking her humting with me this weekend so I was wanting to get her done soon.  Thanks!
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 03:32:38 pm »
i usually prep the tru oil finish by lightly rubbing it with 0000 steel wool first and then apply the satin poly.  I have done this to over 10 bows with no problems yet. 
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 04:44:41 pm »
The same company that makes Tru Oil makes a product called Gun Stock wax. I suggest rubbing a good share of that on the bow and skip any other sealers, unless you want to knock the shine down as the Josh's mentioned. Water beads right up. I rub a coat on all my bows and arrows just prior to season and again just prior to summer gatherings time. Works on handle leather as well.
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 09:15:16 pm »
I put satin spray poly over the Tru-Oil finish on all my bows and have for quite a few years. It works great and I have never had a problem with adhesion or compatability.
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 02:37:26 am »
Isn't Tru-Oil a combination of shellac and linseed oil? Seems like I heard that somewhere.

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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 09:02:39 am »
I like rubbing bees wax over truoil,dulls the shine and repels water.
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Offline Tom Leemans

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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 11:30:28 am »
Shellac works under about everything, so I don't know why it wouldn't work over anything. That said, I usually rub the occasional coat of "stock sheen" over my tru-oil finishes, just like if I were caring for a beloved shotgun.

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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 12:13:17 pm »
Osage bows get 3 coats of Tru Oil to seal up the pores followed by 3 of spar urethane. Jawge
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2012, 08:39:02 pm »
You can put the urethane over the Truoil but you can't put Truoil over the urethane, if I remember right.
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Re: Does shellac work over tru oil for finish?
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 01:05:03 am »
I use shellac as a primer coat under Tru-Oil all the time. But I've not tried it the other way around though I supose it would work. If you want to cut down the sheen of a Tru-Oil finish rub it out with fine steel wood (or a synthetic) and then pumice powder mixed with vege oil - that will give you a really nice satin finish.
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