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Offline Youngboyer2(billyf)

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first 4 points(now 5)
« on: May 18, 2012, 08:30:42 pm »
 in truth i made three before these(but they broke before they were finished,) but i literally had NO clue what i was doing. These 4 were made in 2 days after i watched paleomanjim and practical primitive on youtube. in the pictures there are 3 other points (stone) that i traded for or bought. the ones i made are glass. i dont have a readily available source of stone but i have a pile of glass bricks that my mom picked op w/ the intention to do the bathroom with them but that was 4 years ago ::)...moms ;). i only used a peice of white tail antler (pressure & precussion), a hammer to break the bricks, and a unflattened 16d duplex that was lying around for notching

i can take the criticism, but please consider that these are my first 4 points
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 10:23:35 am by Youngboyer2 »
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 08:35:57 pm »
Criticise?  Not me, my first points look a lot like those...and I for sure didn't use antler. :)  Keep on making points, they'll get better as you learn more about how rock (and glass) chips.  Good work.

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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 08:42:17 pm »
dang son those look pretty good to me, Bub
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 08:52:12 pm »
Thanks George,
Thanks bubby, it really means a lot.

I got rid of the pics of the Pre YouTube points, they made the post confusing and now that I have success I don't need to post my failures

To clarify, the only points that I made are the glass ones, the chert and obsidian point(w/o wire) are
From a trade with bowtarist.

 the obsidian point with the wire wrap is from a flintknapper that I met on my boyscout boating trip(seabase), we stopped at keywest mid week on the trip and while my friends were buying candy and trinkets that wouldn't last, I got a awesome obsidian arrowhead, I really wish I could thank that guy again  he piqued my interest in flintknapping, he was selling some of the coolest things at the sunset festival but nobody else seemed to see it.
Heck, maybe he is a member of PA and he will comment on this, now wouldn't that be cool.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 01:33:19 am by Youngboyer2 »
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Offline Bevan R.

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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 09:18:46 pm »
Darn good start. Keep at it!
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 10:06:14 pm »
You want some critizem ? Ok the flake scars will show up a little better w/ some blood on them. Seriously? Them are fine newbie points. Knap-On! Tower
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 12:40:52 am »
Good lookin points!!  Keep it up.
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 12:45:06 am »
Tower, the blood is on my pressure flaker and believe me, there was plenty, thank you all for you compliments. I think I will try some micro serrations, if it don't break on me I will post a pic in 10-15 minutes.
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2012, 01:05:36 am »
Looking good to me, I probably made 20 points before I ever tried notching one.You are doing great !  '  Frank
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Re: first 4 points
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2012, 01:17:50 am »
well, did i make the time limit?(I knapped in time but posting pix took just as long)

tried a few different camera angles so you guys could see the serrations, it was tough to capture with an ipod camera.
hope you guys like it.
and as always i can take the criticism... dont hold back ;)

and thanks sparrow, getting compliments from all you awesome knappers is making me feel all warm and fuzzy, while im cold and covered in glass bits ;D

once i actually hammer a nail out i think that i will try some different style notches that go deeper and from the bottom of the head.

i forgot to mention that both notches stalled, but i think that they should be deep enough, right?

if you cant see the serrations just say so and i will snap some more pics
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 02:12:02 am by Youngboyer2 »
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Offline Youngboyer2(billyf)

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Re: first 4 points(now 5)
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2012, 02:20:52 am »
Hope that everyone can make out the serrated edge, enjoy
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Re: first 4 points(now 5)
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 07:40:55 pm »
Was wondering, is there anything besides previous thinningthat you can do to fix stalled notches
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Re: first 4 points(now 5)
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 08:13:53 pm »
I don't know how well it works on glass, but I've used a small diamond file to restart a stalled notch with flint.

George
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Re: first 4 points(now 5)
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 01:44:21 am »
I cd see that wrking w/ glass, thanks. And since nobody is saying nuthin I will ask, what do you guys think of that serrated point
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Re: first 4 points(now 5)
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 08:32:02 am »
Nothing wrong with your points YB2. Good job

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