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Offline Matt A

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knotty questions
« on: March 01, 2012, 02:43:59 am »
well I have a stave that I still need to straighten and I ran into another dilemma, this 64 inch sapling stave has a 1/4" knot less than an inch from the end.
Cut it off or make things interesting with the knot in place. wood is hop horn beam.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 02:54:17 am »
Matt, that area of the limb is non working so the knot is only decoration and should not be a problem. I guess this does depend on the knot. Got any pics?
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Offline Matt A

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 02:56:47 am »
sorry i don't how do you put pics on here?
the knot was cut off by a chainsaw however many years ago so there's possible checking
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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 07:48:56 am »
Up to you ,but it shouldn't cause a problem in that part of the limb. :)
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Offline Matt A

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 06:01:33 pm »
thanks! K on this particualar stave i rubbed oil on it and heated with my heat gun and clamped untill completely cool last night trying to straighten it. and that last knot section doesn't seem to want to cooperate any tips?
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 06:13:27 pm »
Quote from: Matt A on March 02, 2012, 06:01:33 pm
thanks! K on this particualar stave i rubbed oil on it and heated with my heat gun and clamped untill completely cool last night trying to straighten it. and that last knot section doesn't seem to want to cooperate any tips?

Are you trying to make the correction in the section of limb with the knot?  If so, cease and desist with utmost haste! 

Instead, make the correction in an area with plain grain and you will have much better luck.  Knots are often filled with resinous sap and can be just plain brittle. 
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Offline MoNative

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 06:18:17 pm »
Knots are only a problem if you make them one. And they add detail to the bow.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 06:27:42 pm »
Have you gotten the bow to low brace height yet?
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Offline Matt A

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 07:51:39 pm »
thats another thing should i just cut it down to my bow profile now or when i have it straight/cut that last bit off? cause i still have it as just a split in half sapling stave
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 08:02:56 pm »
Two schools of thought:
1) Cut your stave to avoid knots and oddities in the grain
2) Cut your stave to include as much character and bad grain and bad knots as possible

Which school of thought are you following?  Next, how long is the stave?  Then, how long do you want/need the bow to be?  Lastly, got pictures?
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Offline Matt A

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 02:31:46 am »
well in this case choice #2 would work best cause it's narrow, and the stave now is 67 inches. If i cut off that knot i'm dealing with 61 inches. btw my draw is 29-30 inches.  ::)
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Offline Judo Point

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 12:59:51 am »
Matt get a photobucket account and upload your pics then simply copy the pics Img. Code and paste it in your post then we'll be able to see your pics. I'm looking forward to seeing it when it's done. And people will be able to help you better along the way. Good luck, Mike
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Offline gstoneberg

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 02:04:23 am »
Here are 3 pictures of Matt's stave.







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Offline Matt A

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 05:52:13 am »
thank you for doing that !  ;D i heated that end and clamped it for about a half an hour at a time 3 times tonight. slowly but surely it's working
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Offline coaster500

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Re: knotty questions
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2012, 01:21:46 pm »
I just finished a bow with a knot at the end of the limb similar to yours. I just left a bit more wood around the knot and being in a non working area it worked out fine. I would not cut your stave down with a 29/30 inch draw if it were me. The only problem was building a string so the bow could be strung pushing the string over the bottom limbs nock not the top (just changed the serving).... 



another bow Chittam Wolley Buckthorn stave was chuck full of knots!!!

« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 01:31:41 pm by coaster500 »
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