Author Topic: Fish Glue  (Read 8753 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline agd68

  • Member
  • Posts: 306
Fish Glue
« on: November 17, 2011, 04:21:52 pm »
Anyone make fish glue ? How do you do it ?
Happiness is..
A wet lab, dirty gun, and a cold beer after a day on the Marsh

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,542
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 04:25:57 pm »
I believe it is made by boiling fish air bladders.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,889
  • Eddie Parker
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 05:33:08 pm »
Sturgeon fish bladders are the best. James Parker told me that not all fish bladders make glue.
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Gus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,829
  • It's Time To Make Some Shavings!
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 10:52:05 pm »
Just finished reading Dr. Karpowicz book Ottoman Turkish Bows.


In it he lists several desirable fish and methods for rendering glue.
He notes that glue made from Sturgeon Bladders is Excellent.
Catfish, Gillbacker, and Croaker bladders all make good glue.
Carp bladders are too Greasy.

The Palate skins of Sturgeon were also used to make glue.
Almost any Large fish is worth trying.

-gus
« Last Edit: November 18, 2011, 11:12:46 am by Justin Snyder »
"I taught him archery everyday, and when he got good at it he throw an arrow at me."

Conroe, TX

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,889
  • Eddie Parker
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 11:35:39 pm »
I wonder about those great big ones in Grouper?
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,542
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 01:50:09 am »
They are protected!  ;)  The best ones are about 5# to 10#. I don't know about glue but they sure taste good!  ;D
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Gus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,829
  • It's Time To Make Some Shavings!
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 02:37:25 pm »
Yes Sir,

I know the Goliath Grouper is protected.
But here in Tejas you can still take Gag and some of the other species...
Should be worth a try.
And Grouper Pounding time in State waters is fast approaching as they come in close with cold weather.

Man, I have discarded SO much materials over the years...  :-[
Now I know better.

Looks like some of the bowyers of old would use a mixture of Hide/Tendon Glue with some Fish Glue mixed in.
Very interesting stuff, and quite amazing what they accomplished with these glues.
I find it very interesting also, that he listed Croaker Bladders as good.
Got to get out on the water after some Golden Croaker!!!  :)
Good for the glue and Great for the Fryer!

-gus
"I taught him archery everyday, and when he got good at it he throw an arrow at me."

Conroe, TX

Offline mullet

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 22,889
  • Eddie Parker
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 06:36:33 pm »
You beat me to it, Gus. Grouper must be protected in North Carolina, as they should ;D 8)
Lakeland, Florida
 If you have to pull the trigger, is it really archery?

Offline Gus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,829
  • It's Time To Make Some Shavings!
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 07:08:46 pm »
:)

Would love to fish the Atlantic some day...

If I can swing it, I'd like to try bladders from big Red Snapper as well.

-gus
"I taught him archery everyday, and when he got good at it he throw an arrow at me."

Conroe, TX

Offline JackCrafty

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 5,621
  • Sorry Officer, I was just gathering "materials".
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 08:58:16 pm »
Fish bladders have been used for centuries to make isinglass and glue. But the skin can also be used to make glue.  Cod was used in the past as a substitute for sturgeon.  I believe carp can be used as well.  Carp were commonly raised by monks in monasteries back in the day, and I'm sure some of the carps' parts were used for glues, paints, and finings for beer.
Any critter tastes good with enough butter on it.

Patrick Blank
Midland, Texas
Youtube: JackCrafty, Allergic Hobbit, Patrick Blank

Where's Rock? Public Waterways, Road Cuts, Landscape Supply, Knap-Ins.
How to Cook It?  200° for 24hrs then 275° to 500° for 4hrs (depending on type), Cool for 12hr

Offline Gus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,829
  • It's Time To Make Some Shavings!
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 10:11:19 pm »
Whew...

When in Rome... do as the Romans.

But I think I'd skip the Carp Beer... unless that were the only game in town. :)

-gus
"I taught him archery everyday, and when he got good at it he throw an arrow at me."

Conroe, TX

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,542
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 01:29:20 am »
I've had homemade beer that tasted like carp!  ;D
  Can you make glue from mullet air bladders?  ::)
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline Gus

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,829
  • It's Time To Make Some Shavings!
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 01:39:50 am »
I hear ya Sir...

Brewed a Carp flavored beer once, the fact that I never added fish to the fermenter not withstanding.

Don't they have mullet on the menu in the Southeast?

:)

-gus
"I taught him archery everyday, and when he got good at it he throw an arrow at me."

Conroe, TX

Offline Pat B

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 37,542
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 02:04:32 am »
Deep fried or smoked mullet is to die for!  8)   I spent a month each summer at my Grandparents  cottage on Pensacola Bay and grew up in Savannah. You better believe I like mullet...and Mullet!  ;)
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline JackCrafty

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 5,621
  • Sorry Officer, I was just gathering "materials".
Re: Fish Glue
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 02:22:24 am »
You guys are too funny.  Carp ain't that bad....to me anyway.  Skunky beer, now that's nasty.
Any critter tastes good with enough butter on it.

Patrick Blank
Midland, Texas
Youtube: JackCrafty, Allergic Hobbit, Patrick Blank

Where's Rock? Public Waterways, Road Cuts, Landscape Supply, Knap-Ins.
How to Cook It?  200° for 24hrs then 275° to 500° for 4hrs (depending on type), Cool for 12hr