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Offline Easternarcher

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Question on hide glue warmer
« on: March 10, 2011, 06:06:36 pm »
Got a chance at a brand new deep fryer that has temp settings...lowest is 275deg. F.
Is that too hot for a double boiler setup for hide glue????

Offline ErictheViking

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 06:34:01 pm »
from what I have read, 150 is the max. you want it warm not hot. but more knowledgable folks will here shortly I assume. I think alot of people get a crock pot from garage sales or goodwill. best o luck
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 06:45:39 pm »
"from what I have read, 150 is the max. you want it warm not hot. but more knowledgable folks will here shortly I assume."

Edit: I deleted my original post as I cannot find supporting info right now...  
« Last Edit: March 10, 2011, 07:08:46 pm by toomanyknots »
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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 06:46:00 pm »
Yep, too hot.  Here's the cheapest warmer (below).  Got mine it at wally world.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 06:48:53 pm »
...or a $5 crock pot from GoodWill.  ;D
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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 06:50:39 pm »
I think that would be way too hot.  You should be able to keep your fingers in the glue without burning them.  I did some sinewing this afternoon.  I had my glue in a pan and had that in a pan of water on a double electric burner.  I had the large pan of water centered between the burners and both of them set on low.  It worked great.  This was the best set up I have used so far.  The glue stayed the perfect temp the entire time.  No curly sinew today ;D

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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 07:12:30 pm »
I have a question regarding glue as well, do yall take your chunks out that wont disolve? With sinew glue there is always chunks that just wont disolve, so I usually throw them in a blender and whip them to a liquid, adding them back in with the glue to cook for a while to get everything out of what I got.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2011, 07:18:27 pm by toomanyknots »
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 08:58:23 pm »
I use knox gellatin.
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Offline Easternarcher

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 10:33:32 pm »
OK then....I've always got my eye open for a cheap crock pot or old hot plate...they seem hard to find tho.
I'll check out the wax warmers or maybe one of those desktop coffee cup warmers???

Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 10:37:23 pm »
Osage outlaw's set-up is about the best there is in my opinion.  Once you get used to the right temp for the glue you will just know by feel whether you are in the range or not.  If you even remotely suspect the temp is too high just drop in a short scrap of teased out sinew and watch to see if it relaxes or if it shrivels up.  Shrinkage from too much heat is just as bad as shrinkage from swimming in a cold lake.  Actually, it's worse because hi temp shrinkage cannot be undone.

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Offline aaron

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 11:11:41 pm »
i also use a desktop coffee mug warmer like jackcrafty. good for pitch too!
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 11:15:53 pm »
Just a thought if you're into saving a few bucks...most 2nd hand / re-use stores like Salvation Army, Ditto's, etc will have those used hot plates, coffee warmers and old crockpots for just a couple bucks.  Most folks only shop these stores for clothing and the older, 3rd/4th hand electronics rarely get scooped up (it can also be a good place to find old rasps and drawknives too)

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2011, 07:48:03 am »
My set up is a hotplate(single burner) with a double boiler.  It's basically a pan inside a pan.  Pretty much the same as Easternarchers setup.  I find it easy to regulate the temp.
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Offline wally

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2011, 08:10:07 am »
Found a small crockpot works well. Fill ceramic part with water then put a dish with hide glue into the water. That way you can use the missus' crockpot and with a little clean up she won't even notice when you put it back. Don't put glue in ceramic pot-you won't get away with that! You'll be lucky to get away with your life!
and hey! Let's be careful out there

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Question on hide glue warmer
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 08:23:10 am »
I used an old coffee pot heater and a small bowl before I got the double burner hot plate.  Since I learned how to cut the sinew much longer, I had to switch to the pans so the pieces would fit.
I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left