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Offline fishfinder401

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what size tips
« on: February 23, 2011, 07:49:47 pm »
i was just wondering, if i were to build a warbow, and i had horn or antler tips on it, what are the largest i could buy, as i am planning on this one being a BIG one, with the tips approximately 1 1/4 by 1 1/4inches and ost horn tips i see are 1/2 inch holes, would it be better just to do a large overlay with antler or horn, and which would be better for an overlay
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Offline Pat B

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Re: what size tips
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 07:54:43 pm »
You can make your own horn nocks. Just fet some cow horn tips and drill them out to fit. Overlays will be easier and just as effective.
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 07:59:48 pm »
You can make your own horn nocks. Just fet some cow horn tips and drill them out to fit. Overlays will be easier and just as effective.
ok i think ill go with the overlays, it will also be easier since this will be a board bow, i could put some nice antler overlays and not have to worry about splitting and still have it look cool
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 08:21:49 pm »
You're not going to want your tips to be larger than 1/2" wide. If you keep them at 1 1/4" square they're going to be as big as your handle.

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Re: what size tips
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 09:31:44 pm »
You're not going to want your tips to be larger than 1/2" wide. If you keep them at 1 1/4" square they're going to be as big as your handle.
they wont be square, its going to be more a a d section, and these were just approximate, it is also going to be hopefully in the 160-200lb range, and don't worry i have big hands, i have one bow that is 2 wide at the handle and 1thick
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 09:37:32 pm »
would these work for an overlay, or as a full tip
  and no i wont use the whole thing, i will be cuting in half then shapeing to my needs, the part im wondering about is the stuff in the center, will it still work with it there, or should i get rid of it or does it disapear near the tip
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 10:46:26 pm »
before you look at these, i am seriously considering using the full antlers as tips
so how would this look on an 80in 160-200lb bow >:D

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Re: what size tips
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 03:42:38 am »
these are some of the ones i wanted to try, i hope this works
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 06:05:41 am »
Horn tips are a pain in the backside to make. Simple overlays are just as effective, but if you want a more 'traditional' look for a longbow then do the horn nock thing.
My personal opinion is that overlong, over elaborate horn nocks may look pretty to some but they are a Victorian affectation and add nothing to the bow.
Having said that, I do put 'em on some longbows, but I try to keep 'em minimalist.
Have a look at my bowyers diary as I've just posted a a bit with some horn nock making detail and pics.
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 01:46:02 pm »
Horn tips are a pain in the backside to make. Simple overlays are just as effective, but if you want a more 'traditional' look for a longbow then do the horn nock thing.
My personal opinion is that overlong, over elaborate horn nocks may look pretty to some but they are a Victorian affectation and add nothing to the bow.
Having said that, I do put 'em on some longbows, but I try to keep 'em minimalist.
Have a look at my bowyers diary as I've just posted a a bit with some horn nock making detail and pics.
(Just google bowyers diary to find it)
Del
ok, the problem i am having is if i don't use just an overlay, the tips on the bow im planning are HUGE do i think what im going to do is use some like these and maybe cut them down to their wides point, which i'm guessing in the base and drill out a 1inch circular hole through center and fit it to the tip, the bows tips will be a little over 1x1 and made of maple and ipe
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 01:57:23 pm »
You really shouldn't need more that 1/2"x1/2" tips for a war bow.  Bigger tips will only rob your bow of performance and add lots of hand shock.
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 02:07:52 pm »
You really shouldn't need more that 1/2"x1/2" tips for a war bow.  Bigger tips will only rob your bow of performance and add lots of hand shock.
im not exactly sure of the size, but i would like to plan big, and have room to work with rather than wasting material, and i want to have the take as little off the tips to fit on the antler, i also like to be excessive, but within some reason, so i will see once i start it ;D
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: what size tips
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 02:27:14 pm »
Wow, I see some nice knife handles "hiding" in those antler burrs...

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Offline DEllis

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Re: what size tips
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 04:03:12 pm »
I'd listen to what Pat is saying. Tips that big will just about rip your arm out of the socket with hand shock..........but I guess that would qualify as "excessive" :o ;D
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Re: what size tips
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 04:17:36 pm »
I'd listen to what Pat is saying. Tips that big will just about rip your arm out of the socket with hand shock..........but I guess that would qualify as "excessive" :o ;D
Darcy
ya, im planning on cutting to like 2in long, i only really wan that size for the width, and if i don't cut them back, ill live up to my reputation or being overly exesive, you should see the plans for what i hope will be my future yacht ;D
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