ok i figured it out
if you are using fishing line like i am i suggest you wrap your ring in a twin to make the line bite into it and not slip around.
if you are using larger line then you can just do the whole ring and be ok.
it goes pretty fast once you get started. here is after 2 hours of work.
also build a long needle about 14 in long you won't have to reload the needle i don't think
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