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bownarra

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2020, 02:20:58 am »
If you want to stick with the clamps definately make/buy a pressure strip it will stop those fat gluelines. Good luck :) Lam bows can be fun.

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2020, 05:06:49 am »
I like your monitoring bownarra  ;) would a 0.75mm steel sheet be appropriate as a pressure strip?

other trilam question: does the perry glueup relieve stress from the belly and instead put it midlimb towards the gluelines?

thanx!

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2020, 10:29:22 am »
other trilam question: does the perry glueup relieve stress from the belly and instead put it midlimb towards the gluelines?

Yes, a bit. The effect is not as dramatic as Dan Perry seems to think, but you can reduce the stresses on the belly surface by 2-5% with enough Perry reflex added in. Keep in mind this also increases the stresses on the back but that is not usually a problem for most woods.

EDIT - I went back and looked at Perry reflex in more detail. Dan Perry recommended that single wood bows (all lams are the same material) have the back be 1/3 of the stack and the belly 2/3. This results in the 2-5% reduction in belly stresses I stated above. For bows where the backing is much stiffer than the belly wood Dan suggests the back be 20-25% of the stack and the belly the rest. With this arrangement it is possible to achieve reductions in the belly stresses of 15-20%, which is very significant and explains why lam bows with bamboo or hickory backs often perform so well.


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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2020, 02:01:48 pm »
hello again  ;D
after screwing up and got underweight with no1 I did some more careful tillering today with no2
still needs a few finishing touches, currently drawing 46# @ 26", already shooting nicely
took a pic after every tillering step and put the frames together on my mobile phone
next time I'll taper the middle lam to mostly skip tillering  ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKJmW0AhOI&feature=youtu.be
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Offline Pat B

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2020, 02:55:09 pm »
Looks pretty good to me.   :OK
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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2020, 12:10:37 pm »
Looks real nice. What kind of wood? Chrono? It looks fast.

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2020, 02:46:36 pm »
DC, it's ash-ash-yew. this pic is not the actual situation anmymore. Still fiddeling that top limb  ;D not finished yet. Also remarked a little handshock shooting it today. this one is quite long and is supposed to be a target bow, probably not the fastest. also made a shorter version but it came underweight - rushed the tillering :-(
thanx for inspiration  (-S how the heck do you keep so much reflex on yours???? i really tried to do very careful tillering with this one but saved only 2,5 of 4,5". it might be the boo backing.... (?) Anyway planning some some little design changes again on the next one. will check the chrono sometime then...
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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2020, 04:20:21 pm »
How thick/wide is the Yew? I'm pretty sure set is wood compressing/collapsing so what else could it be? I have tighter recurves on mine so I started out with more reflex. Some of mine had 6-8" of reflex off the caul and some of them gained reflex while tillering(Perry). You have more patience than me. First shot is through the chono ;D ;D

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Re: Trilam Q
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2020, 10:53:07 am »
DC, set is miracle, nobody has seen it under the microscope. but it happens and its a fact.
in this case its not classical set i think, its lost of artificial reflex, which i think is someting different. it's a matter of design. i will work on that 🙃 bow is 1 3/4" wide at the fades and close to pyramid. yew tapers from 5mm to around 2,5mm. i hardly observe any set with d/r's in the deflexed part where most work is done. cheers
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