thanks all, you know i havent been doin ths very long, maybe a year and a half, all i use is a hammerstone and an antler tine, and they all come from spalls and flakes, no sawn slabs . i dont know if i am goin to progress much more using just those tools, but i dont want to use copper i like staying as primitve as i can. how long does one have to do this before he can consider himself an accomplished knapper? when i started i was tickled just to make somthing that resembled a point, i wouldnt have imagined ever getting them to the point they are now, especialy with just primitive tools. but they still arent the works of art that i see fellow knappers producing.- Ryan
