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Offline Lukasz Nawalny

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FD curve
« on: November 18, 2013, 11:03:36 am »
Last time I made few FD my bows. I was always sure that simple longbows have straight fd. I see it is not so clear. Type of bows are on top FD graph

Offline Slackbunny

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Re: FD curve
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 11:35:58 am »
Might the yew longbow have a slight amount of reflex? Would that cause the early non-linear rise?

It could also be that the first measurement of draw weight on the yew bow is a little off. Some scales aren't so accurate on their low ends. A minor adjustment with that first measurement would bring the curve to near linear.

I'd say the extra rise near the end of the curve on the yew bow is stacking.

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Re: FD curve
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 11:44:10 am »
Here's my 130# Yew warbow FD, just did it this morning  :)
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Offline Lukasz Nawalny

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Re: FD curve
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 12:48:30 pm »
this yew longbow. Have very small reflex in handle area. Maybe it is way to put extra performance on ELB ? This bow shoot realy great.

Offline Del the cat

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Re: FD curve
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 01:42:09 pm »
I'd say that on the fd curve for the 40# @ 30" yew, neither the straight line nor the curve are anywhere near a fit for the data.
Allowing for measurement error It's pretty straight. I'd tend to discount to zero draw point as pretty irrelevant and easilly subject to error*.
The blue line is my take on it....
The slight initial deviation from the expected could be due to a variety of things, miss-measurement, string stretch, poor scale accuracy at low weight. Theoretically the curve will pass through the brace height at zero pounds...  but it's close enough for jazz.
The slight upward deviation as it aproaches full draw could easilly be the string angle change.
After all there is nothing in the geometry of a longbow that would make you expect a linear force draw curve, the constantly changing string angle. The large deflection of the limbs where most physics confines it to 'small angles of deflection'. The material taken to close to the elastic limit (and in some csaes beyond.
It's a minor miracle that it's anywhere near linear.
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*Does the tiller rig have the scale hanging on the sting? If so, then at brace height the scale should be reading the weight of the scale and it will be giving a small deflection. My scale weighs about 2# so I "zero" the scale at 2#
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