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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 12:40:47 pm »
Heat temper for sure Lee. 
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 12:42:20 pm »
Just design it accordingly to its sg and give the belly a nice deep dark toasting....I've liked all the hackberry I've worked with(when I'm not a idiot and ask too much of it..lol) I did break one. :laugh:

Dang it pearly u made the warning pop up on me n beat me to the punch... :laugh:
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 02:30:39 pm »
Roger on the "toasted evenly"

Another quickie for any of you Juniper - ERC guys...I have a real nice stick straight, no branches 6" dia ERC I want to harvest before I move from my house.  I know the end need to be sealed up good but if I debark it (I assume it will be easier now vs later) do I need to seal the whole skinned log?

Thanks!
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 02:38:39 pm »
Hehehehe...I know which ERC tree you are refering too. Heck yeah,cut that baby down before ya sell it. Id just leave the bark on,cus I like making backed bows with it and it really doesn't matter if your not careful removing the bark. And that way you won't run into any checking issues on the back. Plus its sticky sappy stuff...up to you either way just seal for peace of mind if you do debark it after cutting. But remember it dings easy,so leave the bark on cus you'll be moving it around.
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 02:42:57 pm »
Thanks Blackhawk!  Yup, you know the sucker I'm talking about...I might have gotten another 1/4" girth out of it by letting it grow since you were here.  Good points about the bark and moving issues...I will likely (99% certain) sinew back the bows out of it anyway as I want a sexy pink heartwood sinew back rocket launcher to play around with.   >:D
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 03:01:50 pm »
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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2012, 03:57:28 pm »
Yup, just like that...just cut it down but I can't say I am impressed with the amount of heartwood...seems a 50/50 ratios of sap to heartwood  :-[
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2012, 04:19:43 pm »
Quote from: tom sawyer on July 30, 2012, 11:58:34 am
The little bit of mulberry I've cut and used around here, had really big growth rings and wasn't all that dense.  Looks kinda like hedge but doesn't act like it. 

Thats how alot of the stuff around here is. 3/4" thick rings and very very light. But I have also cut some smaller mulberrys that had very tight rings and have been very dense good bow wood. I think, if you can find a mulberry that has grown slow, it will make make good dense compression strong bow wood. But the stuff, like the big fat trees in wet land and by creeks, grow very fast with fat rings and end up being light wood. It's better finding a muberry tree on the top of a dry hill, where all the water drains down and it's roots can't suck up water as fast...
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 04:23:40 pm »
You'll have that with erc from time to time....you should still have enough heartwood if you decrown the sap mostly off and make it a short sinewed bow as you intend to do. Most the stuff I've cut out here in pa has only 3/4"-1" of sapwood in it.
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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 04:40:57 pm »
Quote from: Lee Slikkers on July 29, 2012, 11:23:37 pm
Being that I have a ton of Osage ...

Want to get rid of some? I have a ton of empty space that needs to be filled with Osage.  ;D

It's a shame I can't find any in Maryland. I did find a nice mulberry that was getting worked on near my job. I asked the guys for some pieces of it (they were SHREDDING THEM - it was horrible) and got a decent log. I also grabbed a rotten, dead limb that was full of bugs, but after removing the eaten parts, came up with a perfectly seasoned billet - which I'm going to make in to my first mulberry bow. See here:

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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 04:56:49 pm »
Quote from: doggonemess on July 30, 2012, 04:40:57 pm
Quote from: Lee Slikkers on July 29, 2012, 11:23:37 pm
Being that I have a ton of Osage ...

Want to get rid of some? I have a ton of empty space that needs to be filled with Osage.  ;D

It's a shame I can't find any in Maryland. I did find a nice mulberry that was getting worked on near my job. I asked the guys for some pieces of it (they were SHREDDING THEM - it was horrible) and got a decent log. I also grabbed a rotten, dead limb that was full of bugs, but after removing the eaten parts, came up with a perfectly seasoned billet - which I'm going to make in to my first mulberry bow. See here:



Nice billet!  I should sell some Osage, could use the moving $ but only heavens knows when I'll have the energy to go harvest some again any this stuff is just getting seasoned enough for honest use now.

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Offline Lee Slikkers

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Re: Preferred White Wood - Hackberry or Mulberry?
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 05:09:32 pm »
Quote from: blackhawk on July 30, 2012, 03:01:50 pm
Like this one  >:D

 http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=30629.0

Here are a few quick pics of the victim...about 6' long and 5"-6" diameter.





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