Thanks, I always wanted to be able make points with just antler and bone tools. I am real proud to have made to this point. The antler just works the stone in a different way. I wondered why the ice man had an antler flaker but carried a copper axe. Maybe in some respects it works better . I find that the antler likes to hold the flake longer . I also find that really small flakes can be removed from very small platforms. I cant say that I have walk away from copper but for the last 2 weeks I have been without it.