Blackhawk, I intend to heat treat it and once its done will post pics if I can remember how, lol. I'm really excited about the possibilities of hackberry. I have qutie a bit of osage but most of it is going to require significant work with the heat gun and not that I mind, but when it comes to just knocking out a bow for someone, if you start with good stright , knot free wood it sure speeds up the process. Thanks for the inspiration and encouragement. Danny