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Offline jayman448

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How small is too small?
« on: April 15, 2015, 03:26:15 am »
ive found a dead straight ash sapling. just beautiful. it would be magnificent in 8 years or so but i dont want to wait XD. so..... what is the minimum diameter ash sapling youd take for a bow? for something so small i think id hope for around 35# @ 27"

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015, 03:27:53 am »
1 1/2 inches for a narrow bendy handle bow.

Offline Pat B

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2015, 08:30:12 am »
I agree with the diameter but I'd never cut a dead standing ash tree for a bow stave. Whitewoods deteriorate quickly after they die.
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Offline Slackbunny

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015, 08:42:57 am »
I've made kids bows from HHB branches that were no wider than 3/4". Most of them pulled between 10-20lbs @ 20". That was HHB which has a bit more kick than ash, but they were also all quite short, the longest being around 50" long I think. They were all bend through the handle bows.

Pat, I think he meant that it was dead straight, as in very very straight, not dead and straight.

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 09:24:55 am »
Saplings, which by definition have high crowns, must be left longer to counteract the crown. For a 27" draw leave it a good 68" nock to nock.  A narrow region right down the middle of the back takes most of the tension.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2015, 09:41:28 am »
I guess there wasn't a comma after "dead".  ;D
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 10:28:14 am »
I didn't know we had a live white ash in the Americas. I haven't seen one in my travels for several years. Good find.
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Offline jayman448

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 11:04:31 am »
I agree with the diameter but I'd never cut a dead standing ash tree for a bow stave. Whitewoods deteriorate quickly after they die.

perhaps i should have said arrow strait. it is very much alive

Offline jayman448

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 11:07:10 am »
I didn't know we had a live white ash in the Americas. I haven't seen one in my travels for several years. Good find.

within the past year i have found only two small groves (pockets of maybe 15 trees)

Offline wizardgoat

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 11:49:27 am »
You talking mountain  ash?

Offline jayman448

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2015, 02:32:35 am »
i think so.... XD

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2015, 03:10:10 am »
Mountain ash is a different species. Mountain ash = Rowan - Sorbus aucuparia
White Ash - Fraxinus Americana

Offline DC

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 12:50:23 pm »
Mountain Ash has bunches of white flowers that will be coming out soon(here). They really stink. They turn into bunches of red berries. Robins love them.

Offline jayman448

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Re: How small is too small?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 10:12:57 pm »
Um.. ill have to check xD