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Offline toomanyknots

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"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Offline Dharma

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 10:07:04 pm »
Well...it's like the AK-47 versus M-16 debate, except with bows.  ;)
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 10:36:31 pm »
Arrow veers off course....sure does, with an improperly spined arrow.
I didn't know when shooting a Yumi you shoot off the other side of the bow. Interesting.

Offline Fred Arnold

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 11:16:02 pm »
Agree with the spine issue but you'll notice even the improperly (possibly?) spined arrow with the longbow came as close (possibly?) as the Yumi. >:D
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 11:30:12 pm »
As close? Accurracy-wise?   Longbow shot was definitely more in the heart area. But with what looked like an over spined arrow.  They just commented in the vid how "the arrow from the Longbow flies to the side" and arrows from a Yumi "shoot straight".  If he had used a softer spine arrow from the longbow, the arrow probably would have flown straight as well.

Offline Newindian

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 12:48:27 am »
That made me realize I'm a bow snob
Hasn't it been some what agreed upon that when comparing designs they all generally preform the same and that high efficiency normally comes down to not over stressing the materials or having excess mass(i.e. Good construction/craftsmanship)
And that it is very difficult to compare any two bows from different cultures because they are often made for different situations
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 02:48:02 am »
I wish they gave the hard numbers on the arrow weights.  Depending on the materials the yumi arrow could have been a lot heavier or a little heavier.  So the yumi bow could have performed a lot better or a little better.   ::)

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the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
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Offline Robby101

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 09:47:49 am »
Its not so much the equipment alone, as matching that equipment, personnel, tactics to the type of warfare being faced, in order to achieve victory. To the rigid caste system of Japan, the bow was a weapon of the Samuri, in England the bow was a weapon of freemen and they used it to a greater success.
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Offline Dharma

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 10:39:49 am »
Robby nailed it. When you put a reasonably accurate, powerful weapon with a high rate of fire into the hands of everyone, you'll have greater success overall than an equivalent or slightly better weapon in the hands of a few. I recall reading that the French nobility was very disappointed to learn they were being wiped out by yeomen and commoners at Crecy, Poiters, and Agincourt. The speed of manufacture is also higher for the English longbow than the Japanese longbow, from what I understand. While the French hired Genoese mercenaries armed with crossbows, they didn't use their missile troops to advantage and the crossbow lacked the effectiveness of the longbow in rate of fire.
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 11:01:14 am »
I wouldn't want to be standing down range from either.  ;)
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2014, 03:11:57 pm »
I am a newbie to all this archery stuff, but as far all the stuff I have read from long time experts in the field I beg to differ in their accuracy claims with the Yumi.
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 11:06:43 pm »
I did ;D and you were there. ;D ;D ;)
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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 11:24:26 pm »
Yes you did Eddie. You'll have to come back for an encore.  ;)
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Offline TacticalFate

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Re: Anybody wanna tear this video to pieces...
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2014, 11:30:57 pm »
I'm guessing the yumi has a longer drawlength, therefore it'd obviously store more power than the longbow just based on that alone