Woe....you've been making bows for thousands of years? Tell me your secret...lol
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..jus messin with ya
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whatever ya wanna label it as they are a very solid overall tough design to beat
I have found the same vagaries and wierdness of the elms down here as well...some can be tough to pinpoint with 100% certainty,and I've seen quite a bit of variance within the same species as far as its bark appearances...BUT when ya get a good one, then that's all that matters to me