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Offline Dictionary

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Problems joining the army
« on: June 26, 2012, 12:58:46 am »
Didn't know i was supposed to lie when the medical form asked if i had a history of depression or counseling. Have had periodic depression since the 6th grade and had counseling throughout High school. Never was diagnosed though. Couple of people have told me i probably wouldnt be fit because of a couple of my social disorders. I've never been diagnosed with anything though. I overlooked most of this stuff but i didn't see how it would eventually effect me if i joined. It will affect me no matter what i do in life though so i didnt think twice about it.....I dont know. Now the recruiter told me to get waivers from my doctor and counselor. I also have a skin fungus i've been dealing with for like 2 or 3 months. A whole bunch of crap man......
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 01:03:07 am by Dictionary »
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Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 01:35:25 am »
The army didn't want me either.  They frown upon someone who has had heart surgery  ::)
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Offline Dictionary

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 01:47:02 am »
i was kind of relieved though.......i was pretty bummed out about joining when i was sitting in the recruiters office. I dont know. Guess i lost my heart for joining. I got some government scholarship to a college here in Alabama. Didn't want to go to school but i guess i have to now. I'm gonna give it a shot. If its anything like high school was, i'm droppin out and going to a tech school and pick up something.
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Offline Galthoas

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 01:51:04 am »
Welcome to the military.  The only real thing it will do is limit what your career options are. Chances are you won't be a grunt on the front line or a few other area that require a security clearance. Thems the breaks though. The other branches are rougher on waivers though so your going to have to get use to it. They might delay your entry but in the long run as long as the waivers are there they cannot stop you. Telling the truth about the depression and all that ahead of time is better them them kicking you out of lying and taking your pay from you later and its to late to take it back. That's the way the military is. After 15 years trust me I know.
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Offline agd68

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 02:40:15 pm »
I know you are not going to want to hear it Dictionary but it's time to grow up. You said you did'nt want to go to school, did'nt want a 9-5 job and reluctantly decided to join the Army. Well, now it seems you are'nt too heart broken that the Army wont take you, so it's off to school for a course you dont seem determined to stick with. You better get your head in the game soon or your going to get run over hard by the big bad world.
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Offline Dictionary

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 09:40:13 pm »
I know you are not going to want to hear it Dictionary but it's time to grow up. You said you did'nt want to go to school, did'nt want a 9-5 job and reluctantly decided to join the Army. Well, now it seems you are'nt too heart broken that the Army wont take you, so it's off to school for a course you dont seem determined to stick with. You better get your head in the game soon or your going to get run over hard by the big bad world.

People have been telling me that since i was in middle school.  Seems i'm still fighting my own demons. I knew i was going to have an unfulfilling life a long time ago
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 09:43:27 pm by Dictionary »
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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 10:58:36 pm »
i'm only 14 but I know the army is a big commitment... If you do not feel passionately about it then i would reccomend that you do not join. My advice for you is to go to school now that you have the chance, you might not like it but with today's economy you have a much better shot at life with a college degree. As the previous comment said, it's time to grow up. Remember, do what you love and like what you do.

Offline criveraville

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 12:48:54 am »
Indecision is nothing new...



HAMLET:
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.--Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd.  1599 

The Love-Song of J. Alfred Prufrock By T.S. Eliot

"If I thought my reply were to one who could ever return to the world, this flame would shake no more; but since, if what I hear is true, none ever did return alive from this depth, I answer you without fear of infamy."
              — Dante, Inferno

Let us go then, you and I, 
When the evening is spread out against the sky 
Like a patient etherized upon a table; 
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets, 
The muttering retreats 
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels 
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells: 
Streets that follow like a tedious argument 
Of insidious intent 
To lead you to an overwhelming question. . .                               10 
Oh, do not ask, "What is it?" 
Let us go and make our visit. 

  In the room the women come and go 
Talking of Michelangelo. 

  The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window-panes 
The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the window-panes 
Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening 
Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains, 
Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys, 
Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap,                               20 
And seeing that it was a soft October night 
Curled once about the house, and fell asleep. 

  And indeed there will be time 
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street, 
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes; 
There will be time, there will be time 
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet; 
There will be time to murder and create, 
And time for all the works and days of hands 
That lift and drop a question on your plate;                                30 
Time for you and time for me, 
And time yet for a hundred indecisions 
And for a hundred visions and revisions 
Before the taking of a toast and tea. 

  In the room the women come and go 
Talking of Michelangelo. 

  And indeed there will be time 
To wonder, "Do I dare?" and, "Do I dare?" 
Time to turn back and descend the stair, 
With a bald spot in the middle of my hair—                               40 
[They will say: "How his hair is growing thin!"] 
My morning coat, my collar mounting firmly to the chin, 
My necktie rich and modest, but asserted by a simple pin— 
[They will say: "But how his arms and legs are thin!"] 
Do I dare 
Disturb the universe? 
In a minute there is time 
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. 

  For I have known them all already, known them all; 
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,                       50 
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons; 
I know the voices dying with a dying fall 
Beneath the music from a farther room. 
  So how should I presume? 

  And I have known the eyes already, known them all— 
The eyes that fix you in a formulated phrase, 
And when I am formulated, sprawling on a pin, 
When I am pinned and wriggling on the wall, 
Then how should I begin 
To spit out all the butt-ends of my days and ways?                    60 
  And how should I presume? 

  And I have known the arms already, known them all— 
Arms that are braceleted and white and bare 
[But in the lamplight, downed with light brown hair!]
Is it perfume from a dress 
That makes me so digress? 
Arms that lie along a table, or wrap about a shawl. 
  And should I then presume? 
  And how should I begin?
        .     .     .     .     .

Shall I say, I have gone at dusk through narrow streets              70 
And watched the smoke that rises from the pipes 
Of lonely men in shirt-sleeves, leaning out of windows? . . . 

I should have been a pair of ragged claws 
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas.
        .     .     .     .     .

And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully! 
Smoothed by long fingers, 
Asleep . . . tired . . . or it malingers, 
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me. 
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices, 
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?                  80 
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed, 
Though I have seen my head (grown slightly bald) brought in upon a platter, 
I am no prophet–and here's no great matter; 
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker, 
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker, 
And in short, I was afraid. 

  And would it have been worth it, after all, 
After the cups, the marmalade, the tea, 
Among the porcelain, among some talk of you and me, 
Would it have been worth while,                                             90 
To have bitten off the matter with a smile, 
To have squeezed the universe into a ball 
To roll it toward some overwhelming question, 
To say: "I am Lazarus, come from the dead, 
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all" 
If one, settling a pillow by her head, 
  Should say, "That is not what I meant at all. 
  That is not it, at all." 

  And would it have been worth it, after all, 
Would it have been worth while,                                           100 
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets, 
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the floor— 
And this, and so much more?— 
It is impossible to say just what I mean! 
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen: 
Would it have been worth while 
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl, 
And turning toward the window, should say: 
  "That is not it at all, 
  That is not what I meant, at all."                                          110
        .     .     .     .     .

No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be; 
Am an attendant lord, one that will do 
To swell a progress, start a scene or two 
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool, 
Deferential, glad to be of use, 
Politic, cautious, and meticulous; 
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse; 
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous— 
Almost, at times, the Fool. 

  I grow old . . . I grow old . . .                                              120 
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled. 

  Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach? 
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach. 
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. 

  I do not think they will sing to me. 

  I have seen them riding seaward on the waves 
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back 
When the wind blows the water white and black. 

  We have lingered in the chambers of the sea 
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown               130 
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.       1915                                                
I was HECHO EN MEXICO, but assembled in Texas and I'm Texican as the day is long...  Psalm 127:4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.

Offline bubby

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Re: Problems joining the army
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 04:57:12 am »


People have been telling me that since i was in middle school.  Seems I'm still fighting my own demons. I knew i was going to have an unfulfilling life a long time ago
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you have to change your outlook, a piss poor attitude = a piss poor outcome, most of the time you get outta life what you put into it, there's two sides to every thing, try the positive side for a while
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