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Offline smoke

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Hackberry in compression?
« on: March 17, 2012, 01:15:36 pm »
I've been thinking about trying to make a shortish (56 - 60 in.) sinewed bow out of hackberry.  Does anyone have an opinion as to whether hackberry is good in compression?  I'd like to bring the bow in at around 65# at 27.  Thanks for your thoughts,

Offline Badger

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2012, 01:23:43 pm »
  Should not be any problem, sinew is not strong in tension as is often suggested. Sinew is very elastic in tension. Strong simply means how much it resists bending and doesn't really say anything about how elastic it is.

Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2012, 01:41:21 pm »
The first thing I would say, although this is obvious with any sinew backed bow, is to make sure the wood is very dry. Hackberry seems to me to be a wood that needs to be very dry to take little set. After the bow is ready to be floor tillered, you could use a hotbox, or you could also throw it in a hot car in the sun all day long. The second thing, although once again obvious for a sinew backed bow, is to make sure you reflex the bow a good deal before sinewing to counter set. This will end up pulling it into reflex later, even if the bow gains some set initially.
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

Offline k-hat

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2012, 02:06:51 pm »
Pearl highly recommends heat treating the belly to increase compressive strength of hackberry, and he's done plenty of them to know.

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2012, 02:18:05 pm »
heres the game plan that i wood do(in laymans terms). this is what i do to my sinewed whitewoods

1. trap the back some and tiller it down to 40-45lbs at 18" in your case.

2. heat treat in 2" of reflex,and clean n sand the belly up,and then exercise it some to loosen her back up.

3. sinew two or three courses. first course full width,next course not as wide,and if a third course only a half inch wide down the top of the crown. you can either induce more reflex by a lil reverse bracing,or hanging a weight,or tie it down at that handle with a piece of sinew with the tips propped up....or let it be and it will reflex itself another inch and give you three inches of setback..up to you with how big you wanna go,and how big of balls you have..lol...USE HIDE GLUE ONLY

4.wait till dry and tiller out and enjoy shooting it ;)

Offline Buckeye Guy

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2012, 02:26:58 pm »
Sounds like Blackhawk has you covered !!
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Offline smoke

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Re: Hackberry in compression?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 11:05:47 am »
thanks guys - helpful as always!