yeah that is cool.. be really neat to try that baby out on th emice in my shed..lol.. u know the ol figure 4 trap really surprised me as to how reliable it was. caught a llllloooot of squirrel and rats in it in FL....YOU know Eddie, i think you should try it on doves and let me know how it goes, i dont really have enough out here to try it on, i would build one with a nice rock and throw some cracked corn or millet under it and wait for the dove to bump the trigger...man that really sounds like fun..i wish i would tried that one