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Bows / Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Last post by sleek on January 25, 2026, 11:07:49 pm »
First off, thays a fantastic job on an unusual wood. I ran your dimensions through my calculator and without knowing the exact specific gravity of the wood I went for .71 ( the average ) and came up with .48 inches of set if the wood is air dried. Apple can actually approach osage in density or be down closer to hickory so it has a wide swing. At the average of .71 your bow should take .48 inches of set. Considering you have 1 inch and assuming your tiller is perfect and the wood is dry, the density is likely .63. Do you have any off cuts of that wood to test?
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Bows / Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on January 25, 2026, 08:59:35 pm »
Handle detail and signature
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Bows / Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 28"
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on January 25, 2026, 07:33:54 pm »
++Pics

Thanks for looking!
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Bows / Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 28"
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on January 25, 2026, 07:32:42 pm »
+pics
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Bows / Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on January 25, 2026, 07:30:12 pm »
A few years ago I harvested an unusually straight and knot free apple log from a tree we were removing at a field edge at the farm. I've read about using apple and other fruit trees for bows and heard that apple is good in compression. But I have not really seen any photos of an apple self bow so I had a bit of ambivalence.

The stave I was able to get from it only has a couple knots and mild propeller twist on one limb, nothing worth correcting. I had not felt comfortable approaching it until a couple weeks ago, when I made the decision I would build it with a rawhide backing for an extra margin of safety.

I kept the limbs on the longer and wider side and the belly very flat.
Specs are: 54# at 27 inches. Length is 69 1/4" total, 68 1/2" ntn. 27.3 oz mass (including backing, handle wrap and string)
Limbs are symmetric: 1 7/8" wide at the fades tapered mildly to midlimb at 1 5/8". I tapered the outer limb fairly even down to 3/8" nocks. 8 inch stiff handle.
I kept the outer third of the limb fairly stiff. The top limb, seen at right, has the mild propeller twist so it appears stiffer.


The backing is very thin, maybe 0.2-0.3 mm deer hide, glued on with tb3 wood glue. It was added after bringing the bow to 45# at 22" on the tillering tree.
String is 16 strand b55 dacron with muskrat silencers. Tips are overlayed with horn. Arrow shelf is built up leather and pass is soft velcro.
Finish is shellac tinted with burnt sienna and red ochre for the rawhide, clear shellac on the belly. And spirit varnish and paste wax once it cured.

I originally was going to heat treat the limbs but they took very little set during tillering and since this bow is new territory I tried to be a little conservative.

Total set is 1 inch after shooting and unstringing, down to 1/4" an hour later. It's a fast shooter for sure and very stable. There is not any real hand shock even though the outer limbs are not bending.
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Bows / Re: Future junior bow trade format - please discuss
« Last post by Aaron1726 on January 25, 2026, 06:25:03 pm »
I think the format is fine, I've really enjoied this trade the last 2 years.  I just enjoy building bows and getting to build one for someone else is quite rewarding.  Thanks again for setting this up.  I'll be doing it again this year!
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Bows / Re: Where to lose 2 or 3#
« Last post by bentstick54 on January 25, 2026, 05:11:16 pm »
Basically it lost the little bit of set back I heated into the outer 1/3rds. Tips remain about 1” in front of the handle.
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Bows / Re: Where to lose 2 or 3#
« Last post by bentstick54 on January 25, 2026, 05:08:08 pm »
Here is the side profile before tillering and after.
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Bows / Re: Future junior bow trade format - please discuss
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on January 25, 2026, 04:10:19 pm »
It's unfortunate that there have been issues as you mentioned. I imagine it's normal for hiccups to happen since everyone is only human, but I would hope most people do their best to follow through, be honest etc....

I don't find the "junior" title off putting in the slightest. I was just curious. I am still new to PA and have only been catching the tail end of last years junior trade thread.

Thanks to the folks who are taking the time to organize this and for supporting and facilitating the whole process!
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Bows / Re: Future junior bow trade format - please discuss
« Last post by JW_Halverson on January 25, 2026, 02:37:23 pm »
I’ll let sleek answer your question Robert but as for the regular bow trade I participated in last few and they were run by kidder.  Not sure if they are a thing or not still.  I myself enjoyed them even though there were some hiccups as was always the case I think.  As for me I would be willing to participate in another if started up again.  The last one I recall was 2024-2025.

Honestly, I really like this trade more than the other. I think this junior trade represents the spirit of this community and advances its cause more so than a trade among the more advanced members. Its why ive decided to participate in the junior trades only when I join into a trade.

Originally, there was but ONE trade and it was run annually, and the rules varied depending on who stepped up to run the trade. But the spirit of that trade was always welcoming to anyone of any skill level. The True Spirit of the trade was about how good a bow YOU could turn out and send as a gift to someone else. However, it seemed every so often someone would get butt hurt that they got a bow they felt was beneath them. I helped run the trade now and again, and one individual TWO YEARS RUNNING claimed they received a broken bow and demanded immediate replacement. In both situations he claimed 1) he'd thrown it away, or 2) had already fixed it, but still demanded another bow. Far as I am concerned I'd never do a trade with him again, I'd ban him from all future trades, and3) nominate him to be added to Mullet's Dirty Secret Black Book (a place no one wants to be).

A vast majority of the people in the trades understood the mission and it was a source of many fantastic threads posting pics and videos of the bows being taken out to the range or hunting, etc. But some people felt intimidated and felt more comfortable doing a "junior" bow trade in order to take the pressure off. And that's perfectly cool.

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