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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 18, 2025, 07:06:00 pm »
Sinew's been drying for about a month and a half, so I doubt it'll get much stronger.
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by bjrogg on December 18, 2025, 04:48:37 pm »
I think it looks great WB.

How long has the sinew been drying? Maybe it will gain a little yet?

Is it to late to recurve the tips a little?

Bjrogg
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by Pat B on December 18, 2025, 01:26:15 pm »
Yeah, it's like trimming sideburns, you just have to know when to stop.  :OK
Looking forward to seeing your elk on the ground next fall.
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 18, 2025, 12:04:44 pm »
At 60" I don't think you can shorten it at least not much. Maybe you can take an inch off of each tip then narrow the tips to reduce tip weight. With 4 layers of sinew any more would be counter productive but it the sinew hasn't been on for long maybe it will pick up a little weight as it dries more., that is if you used hide glue for the sinew. With it at 45# now you might just make a 50# bow, or close if all the above mentioned changes are successful.

Thanks, Pat.  I think I'll just leave it be.  I'm hoping the juniper-sinew combo will shoot hard enough to hunt with even though it's a little light.  If not, it was a good learning experience.
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by Pat B on December 18, 2025, 11:25:13 am »
At 60" I don't think you can shorten it at least not much. Maybe you can take an inch off of each tip then narrow the tips to reduce tip weight. With 4 layers of sinew any more would be counter productive but it the sinew hasn't been on for long maybe it will pick up a little weight as it dries more., that is if you used hide glue for the sinew. With it at 45# now you might just make a 50# bow, or close if all the above mentioned changes are successful.
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 18, 2025, 11:12:52 am »
Is that one of those new trans or somethink bows ie  Identifies as straight but is really crooked?
I think it's a bonsai tree that identifies as a bow.   ;D   )-w(

I made a Yew stick bow that looks very much like that for one of my field archer chums. He enjoys the quizzical looks and comments he gets from fellow archers.
Del

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that at the next shoot.  I'll try to post a back picture tonight.  The only places the string aligns with the limbs are at tips and the handle.  It'll be interesting to see how it shoots.

Last night I wrapped the biggest knot with sinew and hide glue, since that's the most likely place for it to come apart.  I plan to put a few arrows through it tonight if the weather is decent.  Stay tuned...
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by Del the cat on December 18, 2025, 06:11:40 am »
I made a Yew stick bow that looks very much like that for one of my field archer chums. He enjoys the quizzical looks and comments he gets from fellow archers.
Del
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by Hamish on December 18, 2025, 01:13:21 am »
Is that one of those new trans or somethink bows ie  Identifies as straight but is really crooked?
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Bows / Re: Tillering advice: This thing is kinkier than...
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on December 18, 2025, 01:00:03 am »
Came out 45# @ 27".  Looking forward to putting some arrows through it once this wind dies down.

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Bows / Re: Straight bow, optimal tiller profile (VirtualBow)?
« Last post by willie on December 17, 2025, 06:23:22 pm »
Also, the more whip-tillered the bow is, the more efficient it becomes (the reason here being lower tip mass)

Although the tip area with the steep taper is somewhat lighter, I dont think those FPS are attainable because the max strains in bow 9 are 73% higher than bow 4

Of course not! Those are only theoretical values within given boundaries; there is no set, for example. When modelling bows made from natural materials, it is important to interpret the results correctly – what is realistic and what is not. This is where practical experience in making natural-material bows becomes essential. You can learn a lot from theory, but you should not believe everything.

Virtualbow is a nice tool for modeling theoretical bows.  The properties of natural materiels is of course, much more complex.

(From the other thread)
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viscoelastic material properties are time-dependent. A well-known example of this is that with a fast release we obtain a higher arrow speed than with a long anchor at full draw. Thus, the main reason lies in the intrinsic material properties, which we do not know well enough and which are difficult to model accurately. In practice, we must rely on measured data. For example, the measured difference between hickory and bamboo backing is both interesting and important.

I find operating virtualbow to be much easier than determining a working stress to design to.
Has having access to a thickness sander made your materiel testing any easier?
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