Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: cowboy on October 24, 2008, 03:42:08 pm
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I've been meaning to show the results of my hog huntin attempt. Stood in my tree for several hours waiting on a deer that never showed up because all I could hear the entire morning were hogs squealling and raising a ruckus. I climbed down and went hawg stalking, could'nt get any closer than about 30 yards - they were out grazing in the open. I didn't count em but looked to be about 25 to 30 head. The big boar (I guestimate 400 lbs) was busy with a sow in heat, there was about 10 other boars prodding and making noise and then the sows and piggies. I went ahead and let fly - the first shot sprayed the closest boar with dirt, second shot went about three inches over big daddy's back, third shot was wild, fourth shot bounced off another boars ham bone. Only had three arra's, that fourth shot was the only good one left and it broke on the bone - I gotta shoot more :'(.
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No bacon today. Those hogs are pretty tough. Good luck with the rest of the season!
Tracy
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Cowboy, sounds to me like part of the problem might have been so many hogs and distractions (noises) instead of one quiet animal. All that can cause a person to not be able to focus. I wouldn't sweat it that much. Could be not so much that you have to shoot more, but maybe that you gotta harden your nerves in the face of distraction. I can't say for sure or not if that's it, but I know it's something I am working on.
~~Papa Matt
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Use OBSIDIAN!!!!! I think you must still have some of that stuff laying arround. Its sharper and will slice them little piggies right up. I really want to hog hunt one of these days!!!!
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At least Cowboy has wild hogs where he lives and can step back out and try again another day. I'd have to drive several hours to get to an area like that. I wish we did have 'em here in Indiana.
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I think your right Matt, I gotta tighten up when thiers a herd in front of me and aim small :). I think my points would work David if I could just hit that little spot I'm aiming at - them ham bones are tough.
Albert: We've got so many hogs out at the lease and that part of TX, even the state is talking about choppers in the air with door gunners and men on the ground "I heard this anyway". there's getting to be too many and they are destructive.
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Sounds to me like yer brain was tellin' you it didn't want to haul that 400lb bugger all the way back to the truck by yourself. Or it was a VERY windy day. ;D
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Paul, if you need some help culling the heard let me know!
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Paul, sounds about like my last hog experience. :) It is hard to concentrate on one when there's a whole herd running around, and those suckers never stand still, either.
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Those are good looking heads.Closer and in the lungs and I believe you'd a made sausage. Some of them big boars have hellacious gristle pads at the shoulders too. Sounds like fun hunting pigs with primitive gear.I hunted them in South Carolina with hounds where we either shot them with 12 ga. 00 buck or caught them with pitt's and trussed them up and took 'em home for fattening. Pig's are fun any kinda way. Better luck next pig Cowboy. Frank
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Choppers in the air with gunners? Far out :o If I had a few hundred dollars that weren't any good for anything else and a week of free time, I'd be on my way down. Ya'll shew some of them fatboys up this way :D
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I hear ya Cowboy, I seem to have a hard time shooting under pressure. Part of the learning curve I reckon. What part of the state is your lease in. I am thinking about trying to set up a hunt this winter or spring. I was on a construction job a few years ago and camping near the jobsite in my trailer on the White river in N.W. Colorado. Beautiful remote spot. One of the locals told me that the B.L.M. was after him to do something about the wild hogs running up and down the river on his grazing lease. Any way got permission to hunt and had a blast each day after work, got one and it was a vietnamese pot bellied pig, guess someone got tied of them as pets and hauled them off and dumped them like some people do dogs. We cooked it up at work with all the trimmings, That was a nice road trip. Nothing like combining work with pleasure. Kenneth
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Kenneth: it's in Montague county, borders the red river - the county borders not the lease. Look at the map, go straight north of Ft. Worth. Might be able to cook something up after deer season if ya had time to come down. I promise, nobody would care how many you killed :).
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Cowboy, don't know why but thought you were hunting way down south and west in Texas. I know lots of folks make a buck with the hogs and don't mind paying to hunt if there is a good population and resonable chance for sucess. North Texas is much closer for me and would be a reasonable trip, couple days travel and a couple to hunt. If someone wants their hogs thinned after deer season, I would be up to trying. Oh, looks like your fine points did not agree with the rocks. Hang in there you will get one soon. Kenneth
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Beautiful country Montague County. They have a really good arrowhead show every year in Bowie. If you want to see a lot of local finds, that's the place to go. Better luck with the hogs next time.
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Nice points Paul. The hogs can wait. Is that the Pedernales brand of material?
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So when We going???.......Huh.......Huh?????
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Kenneth, we'll have to see if we can fit that in with our busy schedules - you too Mike. Hog thinning, here we go ;D. Xin: I have heard of that show but have yet to make it, I'm hunting about 16 miles west of Bowie.
Thanks Pete, yes that is perd points - I believe those were heat treated.
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The best thing about the show to me is the huge number of actual arrowheads found in the area. Most shows don';t feature many arrowheads because they bring the least money. Those are very nice looking points you broke-off in the hogs.
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I LOVE IT. ;) Nothing wrong with your points , big guy. When you have that many, take one or two arrows with you and start crawling. Hogs eating and mating aren't going anywhere for awhile. Just keep creeping, and watching, and crawling closer.
Go after one hog. Pick him out and crawl for him. If one comes in too close and is going to bust you, shoot him. He will probally be real close anyway. They can't see real good. They feed into the wind, that makes it easy. Watch out for the little ones.
David, Obsidean really isn't much better than Soapstone if you hit them in the Butt. :D
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tough break brother... never hunted hogs but hear they are tough to get with stone points..I still carry some of yours in my quiver.. haven't shot an elk yet still holding out for a real big warrior...happy hunting .. and hope your arrows fly true next time.. HAWK
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Can I come down and hunt too??? PLEASE!!!!!
Mullet, I think after seeing how Paul's flint heads got chipped up from shooting at hogs I will be using fore shafts and taking lots of extra points hafted on separate fore shafts.
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David, I think there are rocks where Paul hunts. Where I hunt it's sand and they just get dirty. Oh, Yea, where Hillbilly hunts hogs, too. ;)
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Rocks.........hell there ain't nothing but Rocks here!!I envy you Guys that can go out and Stump Shoot....there ain't no way that a Steel Point will hold up to hitting the Ground around here!!.....Even if you miss the Rocks....the Red Clay or Caliche is so hard it's like Concrete!!!
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Eddie if I could afford to get to Florida I would be there in a heart beat!
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David, I think everyone has heard to much bad press on your soap to invite you to hunt! ;D
You're going to have to let them know up front that you'll leave the sweet smelling stuff at home and instead bring something that blends in with the surroundings you're planning to hunt. ;D For hog hunting, perhaps hog crap scented soap would be suitable. For elk hunting...elk wallow scented soap, you get the idea! ;)
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Xin: I found a little point on the lease a few years ago in the middle of a cattle trail, a small Gary point. There have been a lot of nice one's found out there.
I'm going to give that a try next time Eddie. I was in the wrong frame of mind that day, everybody kinda looks at the hogs as trash. I should have been a little more stealthy and crept closer, the grass was prolly 16" tall. And yep, lot's of rocks - if ya shoot a stone point around here it's probably going to break.
Thanks Hawk! Hope you get an elk with one of them. their hide is probably as tough as hog, hope it all works out.
I'll see what I can do David. If this hunt happens it'll be after the 1st week of Jan, all the critters will be on high alert after being shot at for two months. If it does happen though, your going to have to go roll in one of the hog wallers before the hunt ;D.
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Cowboy, Any of that rock in Montague County knappable and accessible?
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Nossir, not in bulk anyway. I've walked around still hunting and as usual key in on the rocks more than I do the tracks ::) ;D. I't's mostly what they call peanut rock or a conglomerate of small pea gravel all stuck together like concrete. I don't know where they may have quaried thier rock around here but would think it's close by somewhere. In all the miles I've walked out here I've picked up one fist size rock that would knap.
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Paul you need to carry a pressure flaker in your pocket for just such occasions...field repairs. Pat
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Yep! Just nip another point on them and they are ready to go. Hog stickers on the go!
Looking forward to it. Always wanted to hunt hogs. Means I better start making points and practicing. If it all comes together this will be my real first time hunting. What type of clothing should I be bringing to TX at that time of year?
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That's a fine point Pat ;D. I'll have to start carrying a small hand flaker on the hunt.
David: You've never been huntin before? Really? You gotta get out there man ;). It can be really brutal here in Jan, somtimes into the 30's ;D. Naw, it actually does get into the teens sometimes but can be 70 too. Ya just never know.
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So bring the cold weather gear and the suntan lotion!?!? :o
I like it! ;D
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Paul, Maybe an ABO Leatherman type tool...fold it out to an Ishi stick or flip open the pressure flaker, notch flaker or abrading stone. ;D Great stocking stuffer!!! ;) Pat
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They will still cut with a broken point.
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But they're not as prety! Go killing hogs with an ugly point? NEVER!!! ;D