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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Boro on September 27, 2008, 09:39:09 am

Title: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on September 27, 2008, 09:39:09 am

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Greetings all,
this would be my second attempt, first one is not for showing here  :P

It is 71 ntn, black wallnut backed maple, handle is mahagony + stripes of maple and nock overlays also. I am aiming for at least 50# max 60# witch I should be able to accomplish since it is pulling 50 allready. I havent low braced it yet. Due to my inexpirience I woud appricieate some response before I do.
Thanks
Boris

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on September 27, 2008, 09:42:51 am

It seems I am having problems with posting pictures.

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Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on September 27, 2008, 09:44:28 am

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p391/primitivan/hhs%20javor%20orah/P9270233.jpg)
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Ah I get it now  ::)

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on September 27, 2008, 10:01:37 am

So it is not braced yet? You are on the long string? Looks like too much bending happening mid limb. Get near handle wood moving. I'd get make sure the bending is starting at the end of the fades. Also need more bending  after mid limb. Jawge

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on September 30, 2008, 06:18:14 am

She broke when I tried to low brace her.
She has had a little crack on the back.

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p391/primitivan/hhs%20javor%20orah%20puko/P9300233.jpg)
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The reason for this breakage IMHO is in poor selection of backing stripe used.

(http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p391/primitivan/hhs%20javor%20orah/P9260206.jpg)

This crack revealed it self only after sanding the allready glued stripe.
Well, back to the drawing board....

George, thanks for the advice anyway.

Since it is my second attempt, I still have about ten to brake till I get it right ;D

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Pappy on September 30, 2008, 07:21:56 am

Sorry to see that,but it happens,better luck next time. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: adb on September 30, 2008, 03:22:41 pm

If it was me, I'd switch the wood combos. Maple backed walnut would be a better choice, IMO. Also, I think you might have just rushed it to low brace. If you were only at 12" of tiller with the long string, then you pushed too hard, too soon. It's good to get to the short string asap, but the bow needs to be bending a bit more.

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: medicinewheel on October 01, 2008, 03:45:31 am

Quote from: adb on September 30, 2008, 03:22:41 pm

If it was me, I'd switch the wood combos. Maple backed walnut would be a better choice, IMO. Also, I think you might have just rushed it to low brace. If you were only at 12" of tiller with the long string, then you pushed too hard, too soon. It's good to get to the short string asap, but the bow needs to be bending a bit more.

EXACTLY!
frank

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on October 03, 2008, 07:02:49 am

Thanks to all, I will employ these advices on my next attempt. Since I am out of maple for now (and spend all my money on black walnut :P) I will try simple wallnut flatbow. It should work, the stave is bias ringed and has little or no knots and pins....
Hope I nail it this time...

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 03, 2008, 07:10:18 am

How about just using a red oak board - straght grained? No glued on handles for your first. Info on my site. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/

Title: Re: How's my tiller so far?
Post by: Boro on October 05, 2008, 09:32:35 am

I think I will do just that.
Thanks