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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: FlintWalker on August 17, 2008, 01:11:28 pm

Title: My first "real" points
Post by: FlintWalker on August 17, 2008, 01:11:28 pm
I've been playing around with some glass lately, just pressure flaking plate glass, wine bottles etc. I don't really call that kind of stuff knapping though.  Cowboy sent me some of that tough stuff from Texas and I have succeeded in reducing it down to pea gravel with nothing to show for it. I just haven't been able to knock a slab off of anything big enough to get a point out of it.
  DanaM sent me a couple chunks of obsidian the other day and Presto!  So far I've managed to get three decent points from it, my first actual "from a rock" points. I need to get my hands on some more of that stuff. It won't leave you as frustrated as that Texas flint.
  I won't give up on the tuff stuff though, but I have no problem crawling before walking ;D

 The first three pics are obsidian.  The third and fourth are glass baking dishes.  Those Glas-Bake and Anchor Hocking dishes actually seem tougher than obsidian.  I wouldn't hesitate hunting with points made from it at all.

  Btw, thanks again Cowboy and Dana! 

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Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: DanaM on August 17, 2008, 02:18:20 pm
Dang Shannon, your a natural :) The 2 chunks obsidian came from Justin so I guess you can thank him.
Think I will send the rest of it to ya as all I do is make small points and bleed ::) Actually I mostly bleed ;)
So far out of the glass you sent me I have one decent point, several broken points and lost a pint of blood :o
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2008, 03:07:50 pm
Damn showoff!!! :P
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: D. Tiller on August 17, 2008, 03:30:15 pm
Just like I was thinking! Been doing this for years and his points look better than mine.  >:(  ;)
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: FlintWalker on August 17, 2008, 04:17:00 pm
You guys crack me up!
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: leapingbare on August 17, 2008, 06:57:37 pm

heh well damn......
 Lookin good.
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Hillbilly on August 17, 2008, 07:01:38 pm
Shannon, them boys are right-I don't think I've ever seen anybody come that far that fast-you're makin' 'em like a per-fessional now. Great job.
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Otoe Bow on August 17, 2008, 07:12:38 pm
Knappin' is knappin.   ;D  If you're removing flakes from a silica based object, I think it counts.  Throw in the blood, and you're official.  Those are great.  I'm still on a gentle learning curve.  Hopefully I'll get some done while on the road this week. 

Great job.

Mike
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: El Destructo on August 17, 2008, 07:32:45 pm
Shannon....if them are Baking Dishes...then they are Tempered Glass....so it most likely is stronger than the Obsidian....great looking Point too.....wish Ya lived closer!!! I would be camping in yer yard for free instructions!!!
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: huntertrapper on August 17, 2008, 07:59:07 pm
wow those are great....... :)
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: FlintWalker on August 17, 2008, 09:31:53 pm
Dana, I'll take it! You want a check or a trade? 

 Jesse and Steve. Maybe, Just maybe. One day I'll be even remotely close to the caliber of knapper you guys are.

Otoe, If blood seals the deal, then I reckon it counts. Lately I've been a little weak from the loss of it!

And Micheal, I really believe those baking dishes are tougher than obsidian or regular glass.   I hafted one this morning on a cane arrow with full intentions of using it.

  I bought 3 of those dishes at a yard sale for $7 I expect to get about a half dozen points from them.  Pretty cheap I think.
   I also went stumpin this evening and found two old 1 gallon brown bleach jugs in the woods.  They have a nice thick bottom on them. I can't wait to try it out.   Thanks for the encouragement,  Saw Filer
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Pappy on August 18, 2008, 08:13:16 am
Great work, you are a quick learner. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: cowboy on August 18, 2008, 11:52:01 am
those are all beauties Shannon - and you've been making real points for awhile now. Don't matter if it's glass or rock, if it's knapped it's a real one - and i'd hunt with any of em. Just like the tough stuff more for durability - don't have to knap a new one after every shot ;).
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: PeteDavis on August 21, 2008, 11:13:49 pm
Very nice. Where did that gray banded stuff come from? ???

PD
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: DanaM on August 22, 2008, 08:17:49 am
Pete its from Justin so I assume its from Utah :)
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Wolf Watcher on August 22, 2008, 09:48:20 am
You are doing a fantastic job.  There is something about finding a beautiful point that has been hidden in a rock or piece of glass.  Takes some talent to get it out!  Would hunt with those points anytime!  Watcher
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: GregB on August 22, 2008, 09:32:51 pm
Shannon, you're one of those guys that seem to be naturally talented at whatever they set their mind too! Disgusting!  ;D

I vote we elect Shannon to be the official knapper for this tribe...quit is job and spend all day between knapping points and the post office sending them to us! ;D

Oh yeah, but he makes really sweet bows too, and his cane arrow's are top notch and fly like darts, and he knows when and what moves to make on a tree stand in the deer woods...okay, forget the whole thing! ;)
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: D. Tiller on August 23, 2008, 03:41:28 am
Nah! Greg, he's the designated primitive of our tribe. Makes all the primitive gear for all of us. We should be able to keep him employed full time with this crowd. Though the question is how do we pay him? I don't think they paid people in cash back in the stone age!
Title: Re: My first "real" points
Post by: Zach Roberts on August 23, 2008, 12:27:48 pm
Beautiful....Those are some of the best I've seen on here.